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Thread ID: 116721	2011-03-17 08:40:00	Security device (for a property).	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1186928	2011-03-17 19:25:00	Give that man a huge :clap damn good idea - our dog goes nuts if anyone even comes on the property - and If the front door is open just enough for me to stand in, and the dogs growing trying to get out - the "Door Knockers" think twice :D. She spots couriers and starts growing even before the van pull up outside. My dog, (see avatar) does the same. but when I let her out she rushes up to the visitors and then lies on her back ready for a belly scratch!! I used to have a problem with pissheads walking past late on weekend nights, so had brother in law hardwire some security lights over front of the house. People walking by on the footpath activate them and it lights up the property ingreat style. Never had a problem in the 3 years since that was done. Crims hate bright lights! Ken ;)	kenj (9738)
1186929	2011-03-17 20:20:00	Situation: Someone has a small shop and has had a few unsuccessful forced entries. Due to past events the front of the building now has a roller door. There is 2 small windows on the side with the shrubs of grass. The other (main) side is just a brick wall. The back has a reinforced door and a window. Installation does not need to be tidy as it's a shop with painted and stainless walls. Wires don't need to be hidden. Requirement: They don't want an alarm system. Just wondering what options are available? They seem to be happy with maybe door and window sensors connected to a unit with a siren. I also saw some the DSE brochure, how are these like? www.dse.co.nz Is it possible for a device to differentiate between wind or a physical push (on the door)? The best advice I would give you is to forget about the DIY alarm. Install bollards at the front and make sure the side and rear windows have bars on them. Put up lights on the side and rear of the property. Make sure the lights are not too bright. But give an even spread of light. Also install a dummy alarm box at the front for good measure.	wmoore (6009)
1186930	2011-03-17 22:32:00	Most sensors are PIR and the area they cover are at certain distance and span . So having it so the zone that activates the alarm covers say a foot from the door or window is quite a painless process to set up . Other considerations are having a delay on certain sensors so when the owner enters he has a delay period to turn the alarm off which Im sure is pretty standard . Some you can get can dail straight to your pc/mac or phone, matter of budget but shop around and get to know different types and functions . With those portable units, they could just put it on the table or shelf near the back of the shop, it's small so can be battery or AC operated . Some units have key ring remotes to deactivate before you unlock the door .	Nomad (952)
1186931	2011-03-17 22:34:00	go1984 + a Webcam + a PC connected to the internet. As "it happens" have it send you the images / video. They don't have Internet (or even a computer) at the premise, plus the assoc. costs ...	Nomad (952)
1186932	2011-03-17 22:37:00	The best advice I would give you is to forget about the DIY alarm. Install bollards at the front and make sure the side and rear windows have bars on them. Put up lights on the side and rear of the property. Make sure the lights are not too bright. But give an even spread of light. Also install a dummy alarm box at the front for good measure. There is a roller door in front, bollars might not work out as the front is a large window doesn't look so professional. All windows do have bars. The last attempt they tried to break thru the window bar. One one before that, they tried to get thru the reinforced door. Will go out to Bunnings later today. Yeah they thought about a dummy box at the front of the shop and maybe a portable PIR devicde with a motion detector incl a loud speaker. Will have a look at the other alarms too but not sure how well they are better off as it is a small shop, so pretty much the only way in is the back door and the (1) back window. Unless one gets a alarm professional installed with auto dialling/texting to security officers.	Nomad (952)
1186933	2011-03-17 22:37:00	You can get battery operated ones, but personally I go for one that hooks up to the mains power and have a back up battery in case of a power cut. We find at work battery powered ones are often forgotten about and end up obsolete before battery replacement is done. Also if you get one hooked up properly your insurance should come down. If your going to have a key ring/card/key operated one you'll probably pay just as much to have a regular house type alarm in there, if they are doing well the could pay the local security outfit a fee a month to monitor it and do spot checks.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1186934	2011-03-17 22:44:00	You can get battery operated ones, but personally I go for one that hooks up to the mains power and have a back up battery in case of a power cut . We find at work battery powered ones are often forgotten about and end up obsolete before battery replacement is done . Also if you get one hooked up properly your insurance should come down . If your going to have a key ring/card/key operated one you'll probably pay just as much to have a regular house type alarm in there, if they are doing well the could pay the local security outfit a fee a month to monitor it and do spot checks . Yeah, it takes std battery and it can be AC/DC operated (at additional cost) . $50 without keyrings, $90 with keyrings - DSE source . Will have a look around and other of the std alarms too . . . . . . The stuff is not valuable inside, it's just the annoyance and the time to clean up the mess . There is no tobacco/alcohol or caviar or gold watches :p	Nomad (952)
1186935	2011-03-17 23:50:00	Webcams are also surprisingly good as mentioned earlier.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1186936	2011-03-18 00:07:00	Webcams are also surprisingly good as mentioned earlier. Ummmmm. Did you see the post by Nomad saying there are not any PCs or the internet on the premises? Post #14	Snorkbox (15764)
1186937	2011-03-18 00:36:00	There is a roller door in front, bollars might not work out as the front is a large window doesn't look so professional. All windows do have bars. The last attempt they tried to break thru the window bar. One one before that, they tried to get thru the reinforced door. Will go out to Bunnings later today. Yeah they thought about a dummy box at the front of the shop and maybe a portable PIR devicde with a motion detector incl a loud speaker. Will have a look at the other alarms too but not sure how well they are better off as it is a small shop, so pretty much the only way in is the back door and the (1) back window. Unless one gets a alarm professional installed with auto dialling/texting to security officers. What do you mean that bollards don't look 'professional' I'm not talking about 6 foot high ones. Some you can remove during the day. By the way what type of business is this ?	wmoore (6009)
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