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Thread ID: 116707	2011-03-16 08:22:00	Driver or cyclist at fault?	64etert (15489)	PC World Chat

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1186808	2011-03-16 22:41:00	I think there is fault with 3 parties here, the door-opener, the cyclist, and the truck driver. Clearly none was fully aware of the environment and their surroundings. The door-opener should have checked more closely, but depending which part of Tamaki Drive, there are some parts there where the road curvature means you would literally wait forever due to short visible distances. The cyclist, in my view, should know the be cautious of opening doors when passing parked vehicles - and perhaps slow a bit so you can stop if needs be, especially if you have a FREAKEN TRUCK RIGHT BEHIND YOU. And the poor trucky, perhaps it was bad timing, but clearly also didn't expect the cyclist to swerve in front of him. Was that just bad luck, or was he travelling faster than conditions (including vehicle volume and potential hazardous objects) suggested? Ultimately, I don't believe the driver should be punished severely - let's face it, the drunkard who drove into a cyclist and killed them only got 10-months suspended licence and some community service - but it should be a reminder to drivers AND cyclists about visibility and opening doors. Personally, I think if cyclists want to ride on the road, it should be under the same rules & conditions as a moped.	inphinity (7274)
1186809	2011-03-16 23:07:00	So the police have charged a driver because the CYCLISTS dodged a car door: www.nzherald.co.nz So from the sounds of the article the driver did not open the door and hit the cyclist. As far as I know there is no 'give way' rule when it comes to opening a car door. I wonder if the charge will stick in court. What do you think? IMO, and I dont have all the facts, ie: door opened & cyclist rides into door, or whatever, however, I would say the cyclist should have been on the damn cycle path, thats what its there for!, 2nd, did the cyclists NOT expect the door to open?, what was she watching?, 3rd, I dont think there is a law about opening the door. Just more PC nonsense if you ask me!	SolMiester (139)
1186810	2011-03-16 23:24:00	From the road code: Opening and closing doors You must not open or close the door of a motor vehicle if it is likely to: •cause a hazard to any road user (including pedestrians, cyclists or other users of a footpath), or •hurt anyone. (www.nzta.govt.nz)	Agent_24 (57)
1186811	2011-03-16 23:31:00	Now Snork will come in and say the road code isnt law	prefect (6291)
1186812	2011-03-16 23:36:00	From the road code:................. (www.nzta.govt.nz) If only the circumstances were as clear as you seem to think they are/were :( :(	Zippity (58)
1186813	2011-03-16 23:39:00	It also has to be mentioned that the road code is, in fact, an advisory document and not the actual law.	Snorkbox (15764)
1186814	2011-03-16 23:40:00	If only the circumstances were as clear as you seem to think they are/were :( :( I can't see anywhere that Agent seemed to think the circumstances were clear...he is just quoting from the road code...........that is how wars are started :lol:	Terry Porritt (14)
1186815	2011-03-16 23:42:00	Now Snork will come in and say the road code isnt law ..............and indeed he did............	Terry Porritt (14)
1186816	2011-03-16 23:45:00	Is that the road that is real narrow? I remember seing something on the news or similar programme saying it was bad for cyclist there. . It is. The AK CC for one of their obscure reasons put a tank trap in the middle of the road to make it real narrow. I think that they do that to keep their engineers and contractors in work or that's they way it seems to me in Auckland...	paulw (1826)
1186817	2011-03-16 23:49:00	..............and indeed he did............ And why not may I ask? The road code is written and based on Legislation but it's not the actual legislation as passed by Parliament.	Snorkbox (15764)
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