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Thread ID: 117021 2011-03-30 06:01:00 The moment now. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1190579 2011-03-30 06:01:00 Do we agree with this?.............


There is only ONE moment happening ever. A past moment does not actually exist anywhere in reality; the only place the past moment can possibly exist is in the memory. Likewise, it is impossible for a future moment to exist anywhere other than the brain that ponders it. Therefore the now moment is the only moment that actually exists, all else is illusiory.
Cicero (40)
1190580 2011-03-30 06:09:00 Mostly I agree. However, if a past moment is recorded, it can be replayed.

So if I'm watching a recorded moment at the moment it exists for me at the moment. :)
Snorkbox (15764)
1190581 2011-03-30 06:23:00 In other words, there is no then, only now. ubergeek85 (131)
1190582 2011-03-30 06:30:00 Mostly I agree. However, if a past moment is recorded, it can be replayed.

So if I'm watching a recorded moment at the moment it exists for me at the moment. :)

Which is precisely what it says, there is only now.

Do you agree Uber?
Cicero (40)
1190583 2011-03-30 06:34:00 Yes, but I condensed it down to six words. ubergeek85 (131)
1190584 2011-03-30 06:47:00 So is your conceptual model of "the notion of now" digital or analogue in nature? tuiruru (12277)
1190585 2011-03-30 06:52:00 Do we agree with this?.............
No.
That is equivalent to saying that only one place exists.
If you can only ever experience "here", then "there" is, by that logic, nonexistent.

All places & times exist simultaneously, but your "moment" is entirely subjective and depends on the particular space-time co-ordinates occupied by the observer.

:waughh:
fred_fish (15241)
1190586 2011-03-30 07:08:00 If you want something to ponder how about this....

Everything happens to you. In a way the world revolves around you.

Snippet:

9. “I”
Become aware of the fact that your world always includes you. As William James
noted, it is I see, I hear, I feel, I think that is the basic fact of experience.5 You are not
what you see, hear, think, or feel; you have these experiences. Perhaps most
essentially, you are who is aware. You are always at the center of your
multidimensional universe of experience, but you are not always consciously aware of
yourself. Briefly repeat the exercise with the following difference: At the same time
you attend to each of the various aspects of your experience, be aware that it is you
who is noticing these things (“I see the light...”). (link (www.bibliotecapleyades.net))

Basically if you don't see/hear/feel etc then essentially it doesn't happen, well that's the way I see it anyway which might not actually be interpreted right, but might be worth trying the exercise in the link. Interesting way to view life too, that it's your world and everyone else is just put into it.
--Wolf-- (128)
1190587 2011-03-30 08:03:00 Time


When I was young, I dreamed,
Often a dream about flying,
Flying along about head height above the ground,
Moving smoothly and effortlessly, gliding
As in a dream.
Astral travelling.
A cruise missile, ground hugging.
As I got older I stopped dreaming that dream
I almost forgot that I had ever dreamt it
But when I broke my leg in the middle of my life,
I remembered it again.
I started to ride a bicycle to strengthen my withered, wasted leg
And the dream became reality.
Today even, riding along on a sunny afternoon
With a warm nor-westerly breeze at my heels
Effortlessly, moving quite fast
Always at the same height
I relive my childhood.
These days, however, I think of deeper things
Time does not exist in and of itself.
16/9/3
zqwerty (97)
1190588 2011-03-30 08:08:00 Time does not exist in and of itself.

The moment exists.

Now
Cicero (40)
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