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Thread ID: 117073	2011-04-01 05:20:00	Police figures	Snorkbox (15764)	PC World Chat

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1191173	2011-04-02 03:30:00	I cannot agree sorry. There are enough police already. They just need to use them more effectively. Stop using them on traffic duties would be a start. Running around issuing tickets for minor traffic offenses is not a good use of police time. It does nothing to help law and order and alienates the very people that the police need to help them. I agree. And if the courts actually put people away then the police may have a lower workload, and the savings to society would be in the billions.	Metla (12)
1191174	2011-04-02 03:42:00	I agree. And if the courts actually put people away then the police may have a lower workload, and the savings to society would be in the billions. Talking to a cop about 25 years ago, he was leaving because he had had enough of him catching them, then the courts letting them go. I would think it even worse now, each year the do gooders win more space, probably till we have all had enough, then the pendulum will swing the other way!	Cicero (40)
1191175	2011-04-02 04:11:00	Talking to a cop about 25 years ago, he was leaving because he had had enough of him catching them, then the courts letting them go. I frequent another forum which has a couple of cops that post and the same frustration is expressed. Is the same people,over and over and over, they round em up, send em into court, court puts them back on the street.	Metla (12)
1191176	2011-04-02 04:22:00	Ministry of Justice does a Crime and Safety survey (www.justice.govt.nz) that records reported and non-reported crime. And you actually believe survey figures? And also out of date I see. Just how does 2009 relate to today?	Snorkbox (15764)
1191177	2011-04-02 05:19:00	And you actually believe survey figures? And also out of date I see. Just how does 2009 relate to today? A survey that asks people their experience of crime is more accurate than reported Police figures for obvious reasons. They appear to do the survey every three years, it is not likely to be a lot different over a three year period I'd have thought. I was listening to an interview with Ray Kurzweil today and he made the point that the world is a better place today than at any time in the past. However because of technology, the media is able to beam in information from any place on the planet, leading some people to believe the world is somehow in decline. I might not have paraphrased his thoughts particularly well, but it is in any event an interesting interview for anyone who is interested in future technology. See here (twit.tv) for the full interview.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1191178	2011-04-02 05:30:00	I frequent another forum which has a couple of cops that post and the same frustration is expressed. Is the same people,over and over and over, they round em up, send em into court, court puts them back on the street. I've spent a fair bit of time in Police bars over the years and Police like to let off steam about this sort of thing but it is their job to bring people to Court not to act as Judge and Jury. Given we have one of the highest imprisonment rates in the western world, you'd have to question whether it is really so that people get released again and again.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1191179	2011-04-02 05:34:00	@Twelvevolts. So why is a survey of part of the entire population more accurate than a survey of the whole? A bit like political polls I would think. The votes cast on the election day are the only ones that count! Were children that had their lunch money stolen interviewed?	Snorkbox (15764)
1191180	2011-04-02 05:44:00	I've spent a fair bit of time in Police bars over the years and Police like to let off steam about this sort of thing but it is their job to bring people to Court not to act as Judge and Jury. Given we have one of the highest imprisonment rates in the western world, you'd have to question whether it is really so that people get released again and again. Perhaps you should spend a bit of time in criminal bars.... The criminal records of your average piece of **** is life long and only interrupted by jail time, not stopped by it. You claim to have worked in the courts, and the cycle is most evident at those locations. Its a regular social event for many. Funny enough regular slaps on the hand and a warning of some mythical punishment if they turn up again by a timid judge does nothing to halt their ability to prey on the communities around them.	Metla (12)
1191181	2011-04-02 05:51:00	I cannot agree sorry. There are enough police already. They just need to use them more effectively. Stop using them on traffic duties would be a start. Running around issuing tickets for minor traffic offenses is not a good use of police time. It does nothing to help law and order and alienates the very people that the police need to help them. Yeah right so people can like you can break traffic regulations and get away it. No need to stop at stop sign, speed on motorway in your sick world the police would see it but would ignore it	prefect (6291)
1191182	2011-04-02 05:54:00	Perhaps you should spend a bit of time in criminal bars.... That aside, You claim to have worked in the courts, and the cycle is most evident at those locations. Its a regular social event for many. Um. Sorry Metla. Twelvevolts claims to have been a prosecutor but does not say where that *I* have seen. Possibly I missed it? Possibly a Mock Court or a Kangaroo Court? I'd also really like to see the thesis he claims to have written. Perhaps he has a copy he can post.	Snorkbox (15764)
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