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| Thread ID: 117229 | 2011-04-08 21:14:00 | Free gun with every TV | wmoore (6009) | PC World Chat |
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| 1192988 | 2011-04-08 21:14:00 | Only in America Here (www.telegraph.co.uk) |
wmoore (6009) | ||
| 1192989 | 2011-04-08 21:36:00 | I dont have a problem with it. The USA has a remarkable law which gives citizens the right to bear arms. So it follows if you have this right you would be dumb not to take advantage of it. If NZ ever gets a constitution I for one will be putting in a submission for the right to bear arms. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1192990 | 2011-04-08 21:42:00 | What about the right to arm bears then? USA Police are often called bears in the movie Convoy. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1192991 | 2011-04-08 22:21:00 | I exercise my right to bare arms everytime the sun shines. I have no problem with a constitutional right to have guns so long as they are only water pistols |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1192992 | 2011-04-09 10:38:00 | If NZ ever gets a constitution I for one will be putting in a submission for the right to bear arms. NZ does have a constitution - www.gg.govt.nz |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 1192993 | 2011-04-09 10:43:00 | NZ does have a constitution - www.gg.govt.nz Well its a stink constitution if we cant bear arms. Arms in the hands of civilians will always keep governments honest. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1192994 | 2011-04-09 11:46:00 | Yeah, right. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1192995 | 2011-04-09 16:30:00 | What about the right to arm bears then? USA Police are often called bears in the movie Convoy . Out of the many levels of police and their agencies, 'Bears' are usually those of a state's version of The Highway Patrol and not the local constabulary . Just off the top of my head/mind and from the the bottom up you can have:: 1) Water district, Electrical/Gas Utility, Tribal police (usually for Indians) 2) Neighborhood, Security and Private police 3) School District, Secondary Educational, Junior Colleges, Colleges/Campus police, Private Detectives (some) . 4) City/Community police, Game Wardens, Railroad Detectives, Post Office police 5) State Police, Narcotics Interdiction, Court Bailiffs/Marshalls, District Attorneys, Unmarked State Police/Black-Bag types . 6) Highway Patrol, High Sheriff and their co-sworn Deputies, seated Grand Jury Magistrates, Court Judges and Department of Transportation (DOT) 7) FBI, CIA, Office of Strategic Services, Secret Service 8) US Military MPs (Army), SPs (Navy), APs (Air Force), Coast Guard, Harbor Masters, Airport Control Tower 9) Immigration, Customs, Port Authority, etc . 10) Members of Congress, White House Staff, Joint Chiefs Of Staff, Bankers and members of banking regulatory institutions, not to forget the IRS officials above the rank of Knee Breaker Class-IV . Everybody above is a 'Blue Light-er' in that they have power of arrest, legal detention for arrest and can carry lethal weapons . The Blue Light ( ^ ) means that this is typically the only color light that can be displayed by a weapon-carrying officer in his normal duty while on duty . All police cars that have an armed officer inside shall show a blue light or be authorized to solely have, possess or enable such a light . There are some local exceptions, but typically that is the blue light ruling . Blue light = gun inside . Note that a helicopter/aircraft with an armed officer cannot have a blue light as he is not authorized to fire his weapon FROM the aircraft and must debark from such aircraft and then can use deadly force if called upon . This restriction is to keep the Air Force as the only armed flying branch of the US Government . Citizens, and especially armed flying citizens are viewed as a threat to federal air control . For the record: police are armed citizens and are not governmental employees on a federal level, although their oath includes language to uphold and defend the US Constitution . This I only recently learned . Off duty officers are also requested (not required) to carry a concealed weapon on their person while in public . Some states do not allow it's citizens to CCW - or Carry a Concealed Weapon, while others do . Arizona, for instance, allows driver's-licensed residents of the state to CCW in their vehicles, as does Texas and a few other states like Montana and Utah and others about which I have no real information . California has very strict laws about CCW and one must have a court-approved license to CCW for it to be allowed but only on a personal, individual application . Judges, cops, politicians and Hollywood stars are the only ones with such a CCW permit . In years past, I could wear a loaded weapon as long as it was in a holster that was viewable and not covered (concealed) by a coat or other clothing in public on any street, sidewalk or into any public office/store/library, etc . That is somewhat restricted now and the weapon cannot be carried loaded and ammunition must not be within arm's reach for me if I were to carry such a weapon . Loaded weapons are never now allowed in a vehicle and only unloaded weapons are allowed, but the ammunition must not be in arm's length for the possessor of the weapon . In the trunk/boot is considered OK, but in the glove box assumes the weapon is loaded and therefor an illegal felony possession . So far there are no permit requirements to carry an unloaded weapon to or from a shooting range, hunting expedition or to/from a store or gunsmith . That is on the books for a change now in California and carrying a chargeable weapon - or one that can accept and fire ammunition - will have to be accompanied by a remunerated police officer who is paid by the person who wants to transport such a weapon, and to have him/her actually carry the weapon in a locked container . I cannot think of any state that doesn't allow guns in a person's home at this time, although New York and it's Sullivan Act makes it illegal to use such a weapon, even if obtained legally - and with a very hard to acquire license - in their home even for the act of self defense against acts of personal mayhem or threat of loss to life . Illegally-entered and/or legally naturalized 'citizens' who came from another country (natch) cannot own any projectile firing weapon (fixed or non-fixed, bullet-firing, concealable handgun, rifle, etc) of any kind and are limited to a pellet-firing weapon only (eg: a shotgun with a barrel over 24 inches in length, not counting the stock or an anti-flash/recoil attachment) . For note: the minimum pellet count in such a cartridge used by any naturalized citizen must be over 20 pellets . This is a federal law, not to be selectively enforced/ignored by state and/or local authorities . Like I said - there are local and other 'Blue Laws' not to be confused with the Blue lights on police vehicles - that are enforced in a willy-nilly way at the state and local levels . Some locals choose to look the other way and others will confiscate and seize firearms arbitrarily according to their astrological reading that day . :waughh: |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1192996 | 2011-04-09 22:04:00 | I dont have a problem with it . The USA has a remarkable law which gives citizens the right to bear arms . So it follows if you have this right you would be dumb not to take advantage of it . If NZ ever gets a constitution I for one will be putting in a submission for the right to bear arms . The US constitution is not worth the paper its written on . The Patriot Act effectively makes the most basic human rights null and void . NZ has a far stronger system to protect our rights, a law based on British law . |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1192997 | 2011-04-09 22:11:00 | NZ has a far stronger system to protect our rights, a law based on British law. Anti-smacking, yeah right. Lurking. |
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