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Thread ID: 117326 2011-04-13 05:42:00 Govt rushing through internet piracy bill Barnabas (4562) PC World Chat
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1193992 2011-04-13 12:56:00 It's no different to an infringement notice issued by the Police is it?
Usually if you do not pay a speeding fine you are charged with not paying the fine. If you can prove you were not the driver as in you were elsewhere at the time then you have a defence. Also right under what you bolded is the rights owner must satisfy the Tribunal .......... etc. So that means the rights owner needs to proove it.

Please try to comprehend.

There is usually evidence.

This is more akin to police issuing you a ticket for hearing a skid and saying it was you without evidence.
Cato (6936)
1193993 2011-04-13 13:00:00 Please try to comprehend.

Snorkeler trying to explain the law - who would ever have thought. :clap
Twelvevolts (5457)
1193994 2011-04-13 13:00:00 I like Cato's analogy but to expand it a little, its like getting a instant ticket because someone decided to *555 you regardless of anything you did or didn't do. DeSade (984)
1193995 2011-04-13 13:03:00 There is usually evidence.

This is more akin to police issuing you a ticket for hearing a skid and saying it was you without evidence.

Yes but Snorkie wouldn't mind as long as they kept an open mind and consulted your horoscope before they charged you.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1193996 2011-04-13 13:05:00 Snorkeler trying to explain the law - who would ever have thought. :clap

Well would you like to try and prosecute an infringement notice then?

And what's with this snorkeler? I have never been snorkelling in my life.
Snorkbox (15764)
1193997 2011-04-13 13:05:00 I like Cato's analogy but to expand it a little, its like getting a instant ticket because someone decided to *555 you regardless of anything you did or didn't do.

Yep that's pretty much it, you only really have to be accused to be considered guilty. You then have to demonstrate you aren't guilty rather than the accuser proving you are.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1193998 2011-04-13 13:06:00 I have never been snorkelling in my life.

Prove it.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1193999 2011-04-13 13:10:00 I like Cato's analogy but to expand it a little, its like getting a instant ticket because someone decided to *555 you regardless of anything you did or didn't do.

Sigh. The offence has to be proven does it not?

It's why I think the law is crap as it's probably not enforceable.
Snorkbox (15764)
1194000 2011-04-13 13:14:00 Prove it.

Sigh. Are you now charging me with having at one time in my life been snorkelling?

If so then issue an infringement notice giving place, date and time.

When you have done that I would suspect I could prove I was elsewhere.
Snorkbox (15764)
1194001 2011-04-13 13:14:00 The bill assumes the infringement notice is correct, and the accused is guilty by default.

:pf1mobmini:
CYaBro (73)
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