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Thread ID: 117326 2011-04-13 05:42:00 Govt rushing through internet piracy bill Barnabas (4562) PC World Chat
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1194132 2011-04-18 03:35:00 So if I am not downloading anything from torrent sites or file sharing sites, do I have anything to worry about?

Yes.

It's still possible to be pinged by viewing content on other sites, such as video streaming or image hosting sites, if you are not legally allowed to view / download said content.

A friend found Graboid and paid for an old video on there which he wasn't able to find locally. They say on their website they are legal, but it seems like a very grey area to say the least:
answers.yahoo.com

This is the hard part, as users are now going to be turned off any form of online consumption for fear they're going to be breaking the law. It's terrible :(
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194133 2011-04-18 03:44:00 GrooveShark would be illegal too wouldn't it? Cato (6936)
1194134 2011-04-18 04:34:00 Yes.

It's still possible to be pinged by viewing content on other sites, such as video streaming or image hosting sites, if you are not legally allowed to view / download said content.

A friend found Graboid and paid for an old video on there which he wasn't able to find locally. They say on their website they are legal, but it seems like a very grey area to say the least:
answers.yahoo.com

This is the hard part, as users are now going to be turned off any form of online consumption for fear they're going to be breaking the law. It's terrible :(

Does that mean if we are viewing Youtube that we are breaking the law?
QW. (15883)
1194135 2011-04-18 04:38:00 Does that mean if we are viewing Youtube that we are breaking the law?

Depends on the content.
Cato (6936)
1194136 2011-04-18 04:39:00 The ISP merely grabs a chunk of traffic/data its customers are accessing and has a look at it.

I'm led to believe that all ISP's keep a huge cache of data on their servers at any one time as it is.

lol your ISP is not going to help loose there own business unless forced to do so, this new law does not change that. ISP's will pass on infringement notices and thats pretty much it.

ISP's have been able to bust pirates for years, they can easily see who is pirating, oddly! they prefer not to loose business and $$.
Battleneter2 (9361)
1194137 2011-04-18 04:43:00 Depends on the content.

Such as what?
QW. (15883)
1194138 2011-04-18 05:00:00 Such as what?

Made for youtube content will not be an issue.
However there are plenty of uploaded content like movies, documentaries, music which are there illegally.

For instance, this will most likely be illegal: www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com
Cato (6936)
1194139 2011-04-18 05:15:00 lol your ISP is not going to help loose there own business unless forced to do so, this new law does not change that. ISP's will pass on infringement notices and thats pretty much it.

ISP's have been able to bust pirates for years, they can easily see who is pirating, oddly! they prefer not to loose business and $$.

I wasn't arguing the finer points of the new law, Just making the point that the data can be analised no matter what the source is.

Perhaps in the next "under urgency" session they can amend the laws to state that the ISP must select x-amount of customers a month users and examine their data for red flags....

I'm sure at some stage the big corporates will start suing ISP's around the world.
Metla (12)
1194140 2011-04-18 21:23:00 Obviously you only want to click on those links prior to Sept 1st ;) I'm at work so can't see what they are.

They can always intercept it, but how useful what they intercept is becomes another matter altogether ;)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194141 2011-04-23 01:25:00 Speculation : I don't think ips of computers are on the internet , it's the modem's ip [which can't be changed?] . Also i'm sure the modem has to connect to the ISP's server/modem before the internet -for billing purpose , so they can track any change you have made to the IP addresses? victorcharlie (442)
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