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Thread ID: 117326 2011-04-13 05:42:00 Govt rushing through internet piracy bill Barnabas (4562) PC World Chat
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1193952 2011-04-13 09:08:00 John Key is a dick.

This law is stupid and will not solve the issue.

For one, it is against Human privacy rights for them or anybody to snoop in on our internet activity without permission, plus it's easily worked around by using VPN's, Proxies etc...

I do not condone illegal file sharing and have seen what it has done to some PC's, but this law is soo stupid it's hillarious.
goodiesguy (15316)
1193953 2011-04-13 09:27:00 John Key is a dick.

This law is stupid and will not solve the issue.

For one, it is against Human privacy rights for them or anybody to snoop in on our internet activity without permission, plus it's easily worked around by using VPN's, Proxies etc...

I do not condone illegal file sharing and have seen what it has done to some PC's, but this law is soo stupid it's hillarious.

Come on. You have used software you do not own as in paid for in the past have you not?

Noted that you are not old enough to vote yet. Have you actually read the Bill?

When you say "This law is stupid" what clauses do you disagree with and why?
Snorkbox (15764)
1193954 2011-04-13 09:34:00 The 2nd reading is on parliament tv now Speedy Gonzales (78)
1193955 2011-04-13 09:36:00 I just don't agree with it.

What if somebody hacks into your (even wpa2-psk) secured wifi and illegally does stuff using your connection? then you'll get your connection cut off for something you didn't do.
goodiesguy (15316)
1193956 2011-04-13 09:42:00 I just don't agree with it.

What if somebody hacks into your (even wpa2-psk) secured wifi and illegally does stuff using your connection? then you'll get your connection cut off for something you didn't do.

Did you read the Bill yet?

I may add that it says that the ISP may disconnect after two years!
Snorkbox (15764)
1193957 2011-04-13 09:42:00 We recommend that the definition of file sharing in section 122A(1) be amended by including reference to downloading or uploading material using networks or applications that allow material to be shared among multiple users

Now, if someone would like to elaborate...

So this attacks everything from torrents to the likes of SpiderOak and DropBox??

What happens when I download something from a torrent legally? Will I be accused? Will they monitor everything?

How much will the infrastructure to monitor everyone all the time cost us?

What about IRC? How will you regulate file sharing over that?

Rapidshare offers SSL download how will anyone prove anything? Guilty till proven innocent?
Cato (6936)
1193958 2011-04-13 09:50:00 Depends what server you go to on IRC. Not all servers have file sharing (most had bots), they've banned it. And will ban you if you do it.

The server I'm on used to have files, but a few yrs ago now it got DDOS'ed to death. So did Efnet. I think it was.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
1193959 2011-04-13 09:55:00 IRC clients facilitate direct file transfers rather than via a server, so they fall into the evil piracy category don't they? Cato (6936)
1193960 2011-04-13 10:00:00 You can still send files between 2 people. But it can take longer (depending on what you're sending)

But thats nothing like what some servers used to have. Millions of files / IRC bots. And millions of people downloading files all at the same time. Just because you can send files to 1 person (on IRC servers that dont have warez on them). Doesnt mean everyone still uses IRC for sending files. You can chat in IRC you know. Not all IRC servers have warez on them (now) either
Speedy Gonzales (78)
1193961 2011-04-13 10:05:00 I just don't agree with it.

What if somebody hacks into your (even wpa2-psk) secured wifi and illegally does stuff using your connection? then you'll get your connection cut off for something you didn't do.

then it's your fault you suck balls at protecting your network.

BTW you can prove things like that.
icow (15313)
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