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Thread ID: 117326 2011-04-13 05:42:00 Govt rushing through internet piracy bill Barnabas (4562) PC World Chat
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1194112 2011-04-17 00:58:00 Quote"PeerBlock lets you control who your computer "talks to" on the Internet. By selecting appropriate lists of "known bad" computers, you can block communication with advertising or spyware oriented servers, computers monitoring your p2p activities, computers which have been "hacked", even entire countries! They can't get in to your computer, and your computer won't try to send them anything either.
And best of all, it's free!"


So is the hosts file
mikebartnz (21)
1194113 2011-04-17 07:48:00 Peerblock does work.

No, not in this instance, it doesn't work at all. It's ignorant to carry on believing that, but at the end of the day it's you who will get hurt / caught, not me.


D) Telecom Data cards using notebooks, hell in the States you can prob choose dozens of options with Diff IP's.
Agreed peer blocking is utterly utterly useless, these programs are a con.

Data cards, excellent point!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194114 2011-04-17 08:00:00 Most people getting caught will be using "Public" torrent sites, and similar programs to Frostwire (better not suggest Bearshare in fear of another riot)

Private Torrent Users in general wont have a need to change there habits at all.

It wont make any difference if the source is public or a private tracker, Those doing the monitoring can just cache a shitload of traffic and filter through it at their leisure.

Then issue cease and desist notices to everyone whose downloads contain licensed material.
Metla (12)
1194115 2011-04-17 08:02:00 Let me show you how P2P works, specifically torrents:
Attached file: Peers.PNG (www.imagef1.net.nz) (150 KB)

Your torrent client loads the .torrent file which has information in it. A "tracker", which directs other you to other people who also have that .torrent, and file information such as the size of each chunk.

Peerblock takes a list of "known" IP Address that are presumed bad, and prevents you from connecting to them. However, as you can see from the Screenshot, I am given the IP Address details of many of the other seeders connected to that torrent, well before I've even begun downloading from them. I can see how much of it they have, and their IP, and thanks to IP Lookups, I can easily see their country.

So aside from the fact that I don't even *need* to connect to you, the torrent tracker tells me your details, so if you are going to use torrents, there's no way that you can block that kind of thing.

Simple.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194116 2011-04-17 08:04:00 It wont make any difference if the source is public or a private tracker, Those doing the monitoring can just cache a shitload of traffic and filter through it at their leisure.
Actually it helps, even though it's not perfect. It depends on just how private the tracker is.


Then issue cease and desist notices to everyone whose downloads contain licensed material.

Actually I believe they usually target a specific .torrent, a specific "episode" or "movie" for example. For example, Shady Records would appoint a lawyer to go after people who download Eminem. They wouldn't care about people who download The Simpsons Movie.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194117 2011-04-17 08:15:00 well, All I know is a buddy of mine was hooked into a very quiet group and he was accessing 0-day releases and specialised commercial apps (such as what they use to run the milling machines that cut engine blocks for race cars) and he was sent a letter with a detailed breakdown of his downloads.

The letter said they had cached his traffic, examined it, identified numerous items of dodgy stuff, notified the copyright holders, put him on a blacklist which all ISP's had access to...

And then they cut his net off.

LMFAO.

This was in Aussie and quite a few years ago, so they have the means.

The were 100 percent correct on the exact software he had been downloading. Most of which was stored on hacked business servers.
Metla (12)
1194118 2011-04-17 08:23:00 Oh heck yes, of course. That's why a certain amount of encryption, amongst other things goes a long way ;)

Edit: It's worth noting that certain things like browsing for a torrent file on a site, depending even on the URL you're attempting to go to, they can still find out what you're up to...
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194119 2011-04-17 09:58:00 It wont make any difference if the source is public or a private tracker, Those doing the monitoring can just cache a shitload of traffic and filter through it at their leisure.

Then issue cease and desist notices to everyone whose downloads contain licensed material.


Wrong

Cache traffic and filter through it how?

you made no sense, please be more specific
Battleneter2 (9361)
1194120 2011-04-17 11:26:00 Hiterlarious a pirate government legislating against other pirates ha ha. KarameaDave (15222)
1194121 2011-04-17 11:31:00 Wrong

Cache traffic and filter through it how?

you made no sense, please be more specific

The ISP merely grabs a chunk of traffic/data its customers are accessing and has a look at it.

I'm led to believe that all ISP's keep a huge cache of data on their servers at any one time as it is.
Metla (12)
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