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Thread ID: 117326 2011-04-13 05:42:00 Govt rushing through internet piracy bill Barnabas (4562) PC World Chat
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1194102 2011-04-15 13:45:00 Case in point, I'm annoyed at orcon because they wouldn't let me change my plan back to 30gb when I switched down to 15. Now I'm up at just under 19gb, so that'll be an extra $2/gb + however much I use in the next week.

Thanks alot team fortress 2 update. And re downloading of a couple of episodes.
8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1194103 2011-04-16 01:51:00 It's most definitely workable, but specifically through the likes of P2P (emule / bearshare / limewire) and bittorrent. If somebody were to email you a file, there's significantly less chance of you being "found out". Same for Usenet.

ISP's are allowed to turn a blind eye, they're not obliged to report users that have a higher data utilization than others to anybody, and so I would presume they won't bother. More data chewed through means more money for them (for the better part).

ISP's can easily track who is using P2P, newsgroups, FTP for piracy and its definitely not in there best interests to police this, agreed.

ISP's are now forced to pass on the infringement notices they have been receiving and binning for years, thats it in a nut shell.

I presume user information is also passed back upon a presentation of a infringement notice, Ie IP address 218.101.XX.XX was leased to Mr Smith of 10 Smith St at 11.45PM on the 2nd of April when the reported activity occurred.
Battleneter2 (9361)
1194104 2011-04-16 02:30:00 Yes definitely, coz the bill presumes DHCP, so they'd have to associate it with a name / account of some description.

They've been passing on infringement notices for years ... They *can* track it dead easy (And most do) but they don't specifically do anything about it.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194105 2011-04-16 09:33:00 Innocent people have nothing to fear.
In this country you are meant to be innocent until proven guilty. This bill side steps that.
Besides this is all to appease bloody Yankee music and movie bullshit artists.

First They came... - Pastor Martin Niemoller
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
mikebartnz (21)
1194106 2011-04-16 10:13:00 For anyone who hasn't heard of Peerblock, its a great tool that blocks known IP addresses from connecting to your computer. Blocks TCP/UDP aswell as HTTP if you so desire.

http://peerblock.com/

Perfect for when you are downloading linux isos.

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Does anyone know if ISPs can give out your personal information to 3rd parties? Does this bill allow them to do so?
Netsukeninja (13296)
1194107 2011-04-16 10:21:00 I was gonna reccomend PeerBlock. I've recently installed it on my desktop and laptop. A great little program, although i have to disable it when i play Counter-Strike: Online goodiesguy (15316)
1194108 2011-04-16 22:29:00 Peerblock and things like that are a crock for trying to make torrenting illegal files "safe".

A) Whats to stop a legal representative for a copyright holder from "working from home"?
B) Whats to stop them from using a proxy?
C) Whats to stop them from adding a new IP Range they connect from that *isn't* blocked?

Just don't do it please....
Chilling_Silence (9)
1194109 2011-04-16 23:43:00 I have no idea what most of these programs you peoples are talking about.... i dont belive its the amount of what we use / download / play etc, i dont knowingly download things that arent legal, what i want to know is there a way to know somethings illegal? before say you watch it online? we dont generally download anything...... but we watch youtube, and sometimes tvnz on demand...... so i know those are ok. i dont do bulk anything, we just get os updates, and prog updates....

i wouldnt know it was illegal unless it smacks me in the face i guess......... we are those small usage people who just surf the net, and play games and google, facebook etc.....

what i meant to say was, this new bill wont effect me unless we start doing mega downloads of music or movies? am i correct?

i dont feel guilty, just confused.....

:)

beetle
beetle (243)
1194110 2011-04-17 00:30:00 Peerblock and things like that are a crock for trying to make torrenting illegal files "safe".

A) Whats to stop a legal representative for a copyright holder from "working from home"?
B) Whats to stop them from using a proxy?
C) Whats to stop them from adding a new IP Range they connect from that *isn't* blocked?

Just don't do it please....


D) Telecom Data cards using notebooks, hell in the States you can prob choose dozens of options with Diff IP's.


Agreed peer blocking is utterly utterly useless, these programs are a con.


If we can come up with ways to easily side step Peer blocking then certainly they can, unless one assumes they are mindless zombies, but do so at your own peril.


Should Say...

Raidshare and probably newsgroups are based in HTTP/FTP not P2P so hard for snooping companies to track without your ISP agreeing to monitor you and we know thats not going to happen.

Most people getting caught will be using "Public" torrent sites, and similar programs to Frostwire (better not suggest Bearshare in fear of another riot)

Private Torrent Users in general wont have a need to change there habits at all.
Battleneter2 (9361)
1194111 2011-04-17 00:47:00 Peerblock does work. It isn't a cure-all for stopping people snooping or trying to break into your computer, but by ruling out a lot of main sources of unwanted connections you can minimise the risk of being compromised. (ie. spammers, ads, pron, spyware, etc) Netsukeninja (13296)
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