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Thread ID: 117344	2011-04-14 01:51:00	Elections	DeSade (984)	PC World Chat

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1194568	2011-04-18 23:12:00	STV sounds good to me. (It got shot down in the last referendum because it sounded like some sexual disease) But people always quote Ireland or Australia. But what system do the other 100 democracies use ? (OK I know that Germany is the only other one that uses MMP) But this is really the subject for a new thread.	Digby (677)
1194569	2011-04-19 00:38:00	I must admit I'm leaning towards Digby's sentiments here. I also read the article on the Herald yesterday about Tau Henare being the "National Minister of Twitter". Started to follow him, the guys a freakin legend! Speaks his mind, refreshingly honest, all good by me :)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1194570	2011-04-19 01:03:00	Power has a habit of turning people into scum,would our Met succumb? Immediately. In fact I'd campaign on that very promise.	Metla (12)
1194571	2011-04-19 01:20:00	The Irish STV system is superior to Australia's Preferential voting system. Namely, the Australian System allows parties to trade preferences, and also elections in Australia feature political parties at the polling stations handing out papers telling voters how to vote. The Irish system relies on the voter stating his/her preferences, and these not being tradable by the parties - Since all political parties are venal organisations ruled by self interest, anything that kills safe seats and empowers the voter has got to be good. The major safeguard needed is to have a system sufficiently flexable to minimise invalid votes: ie it should be necessary to vote for a minimum of 1 candidate, and to rank in order as many or as few of the candidates as listed as the voter wishes . 1 candidate only a virtual FPP. 2 or more candidates in order of preference.	KenESmith (6287)
1194572	2011-04-19 01:57:00	They misled us about the broadband rollout timeframe They did not follow through sufficiently on the regulation of telcos Few other little things. The biggest for me was getting into bed with the Maori's after the Orewa speech, that was a huge betrayal in my eyes. I was hopeful that the gravy train was finally coming to a end. Yes I know it was made by a different party leader but it was still a party speech. I like John Key, but National has let us down. LMAO, on come on dude!..out of all the problems that NZ are facing, the top of your list is ''Broadband rollout timetable''.... Anyway, I have to admit, Im pissed with the smacking law, seabed & foreshore & ETS SCAM, however National did inherit some of that!... I dont think its fair to kick Nats out after only 3 yrs either, especially considering they have had it harder than Labour who had 9 yrs, during a global boom period! There have also IMHO been some rather naff policy decisions based purely it seems in my mind, on knee jerk reactions of a few, a bit like Labour... The Cell phone in the car being the top of my list... I will be voting Nats again...3 yrs is not enough to get results from any changes made in that period IMO, and certainly Labour is not a viable choice....	SolMiester (139)
1194573	2011-04-19 01:59:00	People complain all the time. I'll complain on the basis that there are no politicians who aren't self-serving, egotistical, idiotic prickly morons. It makes no difference who you vote for, they'll all screw you in one hole or another. So why vote? That's my reason. That sounds like the average man!	SolMiester (139)
1194574	2011-04-19 02:02:00	Can I complain if the ******** I vote for gets elected? Seriously, who the hell are you to lay down the criteria that allows people to speak their mind? I suggest a vote of no ****ing confidence, and I suggest that vote takes the shape of some big mother ****in explosions. In the mean time I'll elect to not support any of the scum, And I'll speak whats on my mind, I will present my views, and I will lay waste to any scum that thinks they can define my right to speak or to hold my views. And that is what should worry our politicians.It should be a real deal, They should be accountable to those that are taxed for all this crap and have to suffer the repercussions of their decisions. **** the vote. When all the options that the system presents are crap, Then its time to destroy the system. Oh, ***, get off your sandbox....you have the right to speak your views and that is given by your vote, if you dont vote ****!	SolMiester (139)
1194575	2011-04-19 02:06:00	Ahh the illusion of choice... If I vote I'll be Voting Legalize Cannabis Party. We can heal the world with this plant and its natural fibres and resin :2cents:	mOOseCaNNoN (13319)
1194576	2011-04-19 02:52:00	Anyway, I have to admit, Im pissed with the smacking law, seabed & foreshore & ETS SCAM, however National did inherit some of that!... Not to mention bumping GST up to a whopping 15% across the board when Aus only runs 10% with none at all on unprocessed food. ;) But the No Smacking Referendum was a killer for me, not because of the actual law, but because Key totally ignored the fact that 87.4% of a total 1,684,402 votes were to scrap the law, but Key claimed it wasn’t a “Binding Referendum” and ignored it so as to climb into bed with the Greens. :rolleyes: The Christchurch earthquakes and Pike River disaster will no doubt be used as a convenient excuse for his poor performance, but realistically they have had no influence on the No Smacking Law, GST hike, ETS introduction, Foreshore and Seabed give away, and all the Maori Deals to numerous to mention. Frankly, if I was made to vote, I would have to vote for Winston, on the basis he would probably do less damage than any of the others. :groan:	B.M. (505)
1194577	2011-04-19 03:17:00	Not to mention bumping GST up to a whopping 15% across the board when Aus only runs 10% with none at all on unprocessed food. ;) But the No Smacking Referendum was a killer for me, not because of the actual law, but because Key totally ignored the fact that 87.4% of a total 1,684,402 votes were to scrap the law, but Key claimed it wasn’t a “Binding Referendum” and ignored it so as to climb into bed with the Greens. :rolleyes: The Christchurch earthquakes and Pike River disaster will no doubt be used as a convenient excuse for his poor performance, but realistically they have had no influence on the No Smacking Law, GST hike, ETS introduction, Foreshore and Seabed give away, and all the Maori Deals to numerous to mention. Frankly, if I was made to vote, I would have to vote for Winston, on the basis he would probably do less damage than any of the others. :groan: OMG BM, you would vote for Winston?..He is IMO the most untrustworthy of all the politicians.....put together!	SolMiester (139)
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