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Thread ID: 117419	2011-04-18 00:29:00	"Death With Dignity" or "Care Not Killing"	johcar (6283)	PC World Chat

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1195260	2011-04-20 11:48:00	I'm for removing life support and things like that. I'd want a few checks and balances though so that relatives don't want to knock off Granny or whoever to get an early inheritance for example.	Snorkbox (15764)
1195261	2011-04-20 19:38:00	Strawman argument. We are talking about assisted suicide. No one here is talking about murder even though euthanasia can be taken both ways. You are so onto it Mike.	Cicero (40)
1195262	2011-04-20 21:50:00	My Mum died in 2004 after suffering from dementia for some years . The early years were not to bad but the lst 3 years were terrible . She was a vegetable whos brain had turned to slush . She shut her eyes at the beginning and never opened then again . She was fed brown liquid (whizzed up slurry) to keep her alive and chocolate milkshake type liquids to survive . She had to have everything done for her - and I mean everything I took a picture of her during that time as we wanted to get her lawyer to stop them feeding her . But there was nothing we could do . We all cried a thousand tears for Mum and decided that the laws of this country were stupid . Then you hear the stupid politicians talking about how life is sacrosant . But them - you don't need brains to be a politician! I firmly believe in living wills and the inability of anyone to overturn them . Ken	kenj (9738)
1195263	2011-04-21 09:48:00	Strawman argument. We are talking about assisted suicide. No one here is talking about murder even though euthanasia can be taken both ways. That's a very easy thing to say but you haven't gone through my examples and answered them. Because I suspect you cannot. Take Kenj's mum - would she have wanted to die? A committed Catholic would regard that as a sin so the person in the next bed might want to live despite the dementia. Who has the right to decide they should die? How about people in comas for years? Waste of time and medical resources - why don't we just switch them off?	Winston001 (3612)
1195264	2011-04-21 10:25:00	That's a very easy thing to say but you haven't gone through my examples and answered them. Because I suspect you cannot. You seem to have a reading problem. I am not interested in going through you examples because I am talking about assisted suicide which means the person them selves would be making that decision. Obviously if you haven't got your marbles you can't make that decision.	mikebartnz (21)
1195265	2011-04-21 10:29:00	You seem to have a reading problem. I am not interested in going through you examples because I am talking about assisted suicide which means the person them selves would be making that decision. Obviously if you haven't got your marbles you can't make that decision. Which I suspect brings up another point. Who decides that the person themselves who is to die by assisted suicide actually has their marbles as you put it?	Snorkbox (15764)
1195266	2011-04-21 10:38:00	Which I suspect brings up another point. Who decides that the person themselves who is to die by assisted suicide actually has their marbles as you put it? That is not as hard as you make it out to be but I am sure they would make it ten times harder than it needs to be.	mikebartnz (21)
1195267	2011-04-21 12:02:00	eu·tha·na·sia noun: The painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease or in an irreversible coma. The practice is illegal in most countries, informally allowed in the Netherlands.	Winston001 (3612)
1195268	2011-04-21 12:11:00	That is not as hard as you make it out to be but I am sure they would make it ten times harder than it needs to be. Did I make it out to be hard? If you think that then why? At one time verdicts by Coroners were issued being suicide whilst mind disturbed or words to that effect. I wonder about the effects of drugs prescribed in hospitals to keep people alive on the mind. We simply do not know enough about minds in my opinion.	Snorkbox (15764)
1195269	2011-04-21 13:35:00	eu·tha·na·sia noun: The painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease or in an irreversible coma. The practice is illegal in most countries, informally allowed in the Netherlands. Euthanasia is categorized in different ways, which include voluntary, non-voluntary, or involuntary and active or passive.	mikebartnz (21)
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