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| Thread ID: 119788 | 2011-08-10 05:03:00 | bad credit history = no broadband | jareemon (5207) | Press F1 |
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| 1222187 | 2011-08-10 08:48:00 | Hmmm, how far do you want to go on this issue... According to the UN (of which NZ is a founding member), it is your Human Right to have access to the Internet (because it is considered vital in ensuring your freedom of expression). SO, my question is... can you be stopped from having access to the internet, wouldnt an ISP be acting against your human rights by denying you access regardless of your credit rating. Just an angle that would have a very interesting outcome!! Jareemon is trying to get Broadband connected. If he applied for dial up would he be treated the same? LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1222188 | 2011-08-10 09:33:00 | Jareemon is trying to get Broadband connected. If he applied for dial up would he be treated the same? LL If he has been refused due to bad credit rating, I would think he would be refused regardless if he was asking for broadband or dialup. They simply feel he is to greater risk to have on their books is the way I take it. I always thought you actually pay your phone/internet services for the month in advance anyway, so if there wasnt a payment for the coming month they would disconect it until paid so dont understand what the issue really is. However I'm not the account holder where I am now, so Im not sure this is the case anymore. Maybe someone can confirm that. I dont think the human rights thing has ever really been tested out, not in NZ anyway that Im aware of, it would be an interesting outcome but I reckon worth a shot as a very last resort. I would exhaust all other options first and if it was me would be ringing every ISP in the area. You may find some of the smaller ISP's might take you, even if you got a base plan with a data cap until you proved you were a trustworthy customer (in their eyes). I wish you every ounce of luck jareemon and hope your father can offer a solution. Cheers. |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1222189 | 2011-08-10 11:21:00 | I always thought you actually pay your phone/internet services for the month in advance anyway, so if there wasnt a payment for the coming month they would disconect it until paid so dont understand what the issue really is. However I'm not the account holder where I am now, so Im not sure this is the case anymore. Maybe someone can confirm that. Basic rentals and plan charges might be payable in advance but toll and data usage if applicable would have to be after the event. Good luck with the "human rights" idea, it's probably a right to get paid for services rendered too :p |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 1222190 | 2011-08-10 12:35:00 | SO, my question is... can you be stopped from having access to the internet, wouldnt an ISP be acting against your human rights by denying you access regardless of your credit rating. My take on that is that it is a commercial decision, not a political act, and as such has nothing whatsoever to do with human rights. The only human right involved (if indeed it is one) is the right to access the web, which he has, but that does not include free service, or oblige any ISP to provide service to a bad credit risk. They can always exercise that right by paying cash to access the web at an internet cafe etc, or even use a public library. If it was indeed a human right that overrode the commercial rights of the proprietor, you'd have every no-hoper lining up for free petrol, or taking cars from sales yards because it is their human right to have freedom of travel. So, to sum up then, and using my right to freedom of expression on my paid-for internet connection: wotaloadofoldbollocks :groan: Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1222191 | 2011-08-10 12:54:00 | wotaloadofoldbollocks :groan: Cheers Billy 8-{) Couldnt agree with you more Billy, I was a bit stunned to see they had added it to the human rights list. Saying that though, you wouldnt get all the no-hopers lining up for fuel and cars, freedom of travel could be walking, yet, in order to have the right for access to the internet, you have to have internet access and the only way to get that is through an ISP. See, there is to much of a grey area I think. I think they said that, but didnt think it through very well on how it would operate (no surprises there). |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1222192 | 2011-08-10 14:21:00 | If you got "bad credit history", then you will need to get that sorted other wise your going to keep having problems (like buying a house, car etc....) My :2cents: |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 1222193 | 2011-08-10 22:25:00 | If you got "bad credit history", then you will need to get that sorted other wise your going to keep having problems (like buying a house, car etc....) My :2cents: thanks stu, already on it :) :pf1mobmini: |
jareemon (5207) | ||
| 1222194 | 2011-08-10 22:34:00 | "According to the UN , it is your Human Right to have access to the Internet (because it is considered vital in ensuring your freedom of expression). wouldnt an ISP be acting against your human rights" No. Access to the internet is available through lots of places. Libraries for instance. Doesn't mean companies need to provide you with free broadband to your home. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1222195 | 2011-08-10 22:39:00 | And if you sued an ISP the money that went to lawyers would enable you to buy your own ISP!! | linw (53) | ||
| 1222196 | 2011-08-10 22:46:00 | I know that mobile phone contract plans used to do a credit check on you .... They did on me and I passed :D | Nomad (952) | ||
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