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| Thread ID: 117419 | 2011-04-18 00:29:00 | "Death With Dignity" or "Care Not Killing" | johcar (6283) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1195250 | 2011-04-18 09:11:00 | Agree 100% | bk T (215) | ||
| 1195251 | 2011-04-18 19:00:00 | No doubt about it, it should be our choice, but as usual the do gooders rule. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1195252 | 2011-04-18 20:01:00 | Yes, we call it 'mercy' when we terminate the life of an ailing animal, yet we make humans suffer right till the moment some vital system is completely overcome by disease... so one of those systems must be wrong... are we being cruel to the animals, or are we being cruel with our own people? A slow death marked with enduring pain or breathlessness or widespread loss of control of mobility should allow a merciful early exit for the sufferer. However, there is always the dreaded overlap where some people who could or should continue to live may feel an expectation to consider termination. Take Stephen Hawking for example. By most standards he has sod-all quality of life, sod-all life expectancy, and no chance of recovery. But he does good work! |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1195253 | 2011-04-18 20:14:00 | We are talking of people who wish to end it, I believe Hawkins doesn't fall into that category, so a useless analogy. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1195254 | 2011-04-19 01:46:00 | The world appears to be full of do-gooders who believe they no what is best for other people. Most of these same do gooders have never lived in a grey half life of pain and misery, but they instinctively know best for those who have that misfortune - It is the right thing to let them nobly suffer. Voluntary Euthanasia is a humane way of dealing with this problem - it is an intensely personal problem, and each individual should have the right to elect to deal with it in their own way - not be dictated to by some religious minority whose views one does not subscribe to. In Queensland we have a system of a "Personal Medical Directive", which if completed must be done in consultaion with one's GP. This is a legally binding instruction to doctors to observe the patients wish, to die with dignity, by either by withholding treatment or switching off life support, should the patient be in a position of an irreversable condition that will inevitably lead to death. I personally have completed this form, and wouldn't have it any other way - it removes from my family the burden of having to make such a decision. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1195255 | 2011-04-19 02:07:00 | If the .. sufferer.. is in a condition to communicate their desire, I think that should come first. This^ x10....I think sometimes nanny state really does over do it.....I feel the same about dope laws....victimless crimes do not need the state poking its nose in.... |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1195256 | 2011-04-19 03:38:00 | I'm all for it, especially in cases like this www.nzherald.co.nz :) | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1195257 | 2011-04-20 11:22:00 | You need to understand that withholding treatment and measures to continue life is not euthanasia. That is what most people want and doctors respect it. Hospitals have a protocol where they ask this specific question. Euthanasia by contrast is the deliberate killing of a human being. A person who would continue to live. Would you kill a 2yr old child with terminal cancer? How about a 10yr old? What about a severely depressed person who is suicidal? Their psychic pain is no less real than physical pain. Help them out? Many seriously ill people cannot speak, so do we kill them because we think its what they want? Who decides? What's the motivation to care for people if we can just kill them instead? Why search for new cures if we can just get rid of the problem? Palliative and pain care is effective but expensive: its pointless anyway because we all die. So we kill sufferers. Its easy...when its somebody else. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1195258 | 2011-04-20 11:27:00 | Lets run a trial on the prison population. We can ask em if they feel any pain and hand out ropes. This will be backed up with a daily dose of pain. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1195259 | 2011-04-20 11:44:00 | Who decides? Strawman argument. We are talking about assisted suicide. No one here is talking about murder even though euthanasia can be taken both ways. |
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