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Thread ID: 119922	2011-08-17 01:18:00	Random crashes after system upgrade.	jackie.t (16504)	Press F1

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1223856	2011-08-22 11:45:00	I figured you would say 'silicon tree computers' because the guy who owns that shop is a right tosser. And yeah sounds like this guy was a bit in the dark himself. Lesson learned tho, eh?	8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1223857	2011-08-23 02:08:00	The computer tech did take the computer away to do the jobs, and he also has a website, business cards, is GST registered, proper invoices etc so I don't think he was dodgy, but maybe just not as experienced as he made out??? But yeah as you say you would think one or both of the techs would have picked up a crappy PSU :confused: As for the silicon tree guy, I crossed him off my list very early on after a phone call which definitely gave me cause to question his capabilities, tosser alright!	jackie.t (16504)
1223858	2011-08-23 03:31:00	But yeah as you say you would think one or both of the techs would have picked up a crappy PSU :confused: Not that simple. I'd be replacing every 2nd power supply i saw if that was the case . Even some of the brand name ones have proven to be "crappy" (eg. 350W relabeled as 400W on a well know brand), but still OK for general use. At least 50% (a guess) of all PC's out there have "CRAPPY" PSU's . Its not an issue (usually) . They are cheap but good enough (I wouldnt use one in my PC though) Most PC owners WILL NOT want to have a working generic PSU replaced with a $150 Corsair . However, I dont know what you asked that tech to look at or test .	1101 (13337)
1223859	2011-08-23 03:40:00	......My tech did suggest changing the power supply at an earlier time...... ?? Quote: "...17/6/2004 which sounds about right to me. And you're right the PSU is Hyena. Model no. DR-B300ATX" Thats one bl**dy old PSU, 300W as well, inadequate. Most Techs would have wanted to replace that at the time of the upgrade, more because of age & low power rating (rather than because of brand)	1101 (13337)
1223860	2011-08-23 04:17:00	In my opinion none of them are OK for general use. It's not so much the design of the things (although some are quite unsafe and tend to explode if overloaded etc) - the big problem is the useless crap quality capacitors which are guaranteed to fail quickly. I agree though that a lot of people don't want a $150 PSU for their old Pentium III - that's why a fairly solid but older design with upgraded capacitors would be the best way to go in that case.	Agent_24 (57)
1223861	2011-08-23 04:39:00	In my opinion none of them are OK for general use. I dont like em either, but if they were that bad , every other PC would be failing. There are thousands of these things out there, working just fine:for now :punk People (ie joe Public) dont want to spend $$ on PC repairs. If I started suggesting, as part of the repair, that a working generic PSU should be replaced (@ $150 ++) , then many would just write the thing off But back to the original issue A PC that old (I'm assuming 2004 ??), should NEVER have been upgraded.Every part except case should have been replaced, & Win reload. An honest tech would have suggested a new PC. Unfortunatly, you will need to swap out parts , one by one. Start with the PSU.	1101 (13337)
1223862	2011-08-23 04:46:00	People (ie joe Public) dont want to spend $$ on PC repairs. If I started suggesting, as part of the repair, that a working generic PSU should be replaced (@ $150 ++) , then many would just write the thing off A few dollars for new and decent quality capacitors and most cheap PSUs will be better than new. No sense in paying as you say, $150, when $10 will suffice. All my own PSUs are either repaired\upgraded or high quality to start with. Of course some ultra-generic PSUs (with really bad design) are beyond help.	Agent_24 (57)
1223863	2011-08-23 04:54:00	Looking at the first post, with the exception of the PSU, HDD and Optical drive there were all new parts . To quote: People (ie joe Public) dont want to spend $$ on PC repairs . You have said it yourself ;) Every part except case should have been replaced, & Win reload . An honest tech would have suggested a new PC . Not always, going back to the above quote, not every one can afford to replace all the parts . The best option, as mentioned, a "Honest Tech", would be to suggest all the parts get replaced, then its up to the owner to decide . Some techs replace parts or suggest a New PC simply because they are old, yet may be working perfectly . :groan: The owner may not want to or can afford to upgrade every thing right away . I have done this sort of things many times, some parts get replaced, then later on a New HDD etc can be put in when they have the money . The biggest difference is depending on what the problem may be, for example if parts are blown, or a HDD failed, then there is no real option but to replace . A classic case is a with an older board, with either socket 478 or 775 blows, the new boards dont have the connections to to attach IDE drives, only SATA, so the HDD and Optical drive has to be replaced .	wainuitech (129)
1223864	2011-08-23 05:46:00	I'll admit my bias here . . . . . , but his $940 would have bought a good Brand name PC . with ALL new parts & OS :lol: :lol: Of course there may be more to that story we dont know :punk Just curious WainuiT , how many upgrades cause you some issues/headaches later on . ?? I got put off after 2 distributors knowingly sold flaky boards . Cheers jackie . t : you may also want to consider demanding a full refund . The upgrade obviously didnt work . Threaten the Consumer Guarantees Act	1101 (13337)
1223865	2011-08-23 06:24:00	Just curious WainuiT , how many upgrades cause you some issues/headaches later on. ?? Almost none. The reason being the parts are all new that I put in, and generally only use either Asus or Gigabyte ( motherboards) Dont use the crap PUS's either. The only one I can think of that has caused a problem was a year or so back, all new Board,CPU, RAM & PSU, the only things that were not changed was the Optical Drive ( 5 months old) and the original HDD. I did warn the person the drive was sounding a bit flaky and he should replace it sooner than later, but he insisted it was OK :rolleyes: About two months later it died (hate to say I told you so). One thing I ALWAYS do, is if the person doesn't want to replace some part under recommendation, I always put that on the invoice that it was advised but refused. That way if something fails they cant say they were not told. Any new part can fail, but I try to stay away from the lesser quality ones. (Intel Motherboards included) Of course there may be more to that story we dont know :D Bit like the saying often heard -- No one touched anything , it did it on its own ----- awh -ha -- Sure it did :rolleyes:	wainuitech (129)
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