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Thread ID: 119874	2011-08-14 12:32:00	Processor For PC: MS-7181 (Socket 940)	Dragonov (16500)	Press F1

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1223149	2011-09-01 17:43:00	Thank you for your very informative reply: am sorry to put you to all this trouble, but there could be people with my level of I . T . (non) "expertise" who are reading our "talk" and who are having a similar problem to me, who will be able to learn a lot about their PC's/systems from what you have written Agent_24 . Like you say, Agent_24, this probably should be a new "thread" (?) but if this topic is recommenced somewhere else on NZ PC World Forum (am not even sure how to start a "thread" somewhere else in this Forum!) then will you be able to find it? I need your help! The (my computer) problems you have been going to a lot of trouble to investigate (and thank you very much for doing so) have led into pretty arcane territory, but also it is very interesting territory . Agent_24, we live in a country where on TradeMe there are people all over the place who are trying to SELL computers like mine!!! There easily could be other suckers like me banging into the same trouble . Suckers who payed nearly half a grand for a seven-year-old computer!!! Agent_24, for God's sake PLEASE do not say things such as another Modem might have to be put in . In fact, Agent_24, you are forbidden to make such statements any more!!! Am saying this after having nearly perished from a heart-seizure trying to put new RAM into the PC to try and make it "go better" and it didn't to any extent "go better"!!! Agent_24, will not let you give me a Modem but will buy one from you, only as long as you can supply "Idiot-Proof" installation instructions: my eyesight is not particularly crash-hot either, so tiny little fiddly type stuff is pretty much not possible . I want Linux - and am getting severely frustrated at not so far being able to have Linux . You are a good dude Agent_24, and thank you . P . S: Have repeatedly tried to download a "Reader" to open the Driver programme that you provided the link for, but the "Reader" downloads keep failing: have tried downloading it with "GetRight" and also with "straight" Firefox, but nothing works . My "Linux Project" is starting to get a "Flying Dutchman" flavour to it, isn't it? P . S: The criticism of William Gates is in no way intended to be any kind of slight on the Indian Software Architects who create all of his software for him . Those Indian dudes have engineered some damn good stuff .	Dragonov (16500)
1223150	2011-09-01 18:35:00	Agent_24, some of the things you have written about, I have not yet replied to. This is due to being trapped on Dial-Up. Dial-Up is like having your wrists and legs in manacles. It can take half an hour for a Web page to open! In the Ubuntu installation solved the "Keyboard" problem the "Russian" way by slamming everything on the entire keyboard into the "Panel" and then saying "Nyet" to all of the questions. It worked! Those Glorious, Crazy, Russians!!!	Dragonov (16500)
1223151	2011-09-01 23:50:00	One last thing, Agent_24, do you think that there might be any kind of Linux OS that might be able to put a " Linux Web Driver" into the type of Modem I have got? Want Ubuntu, but would happily settle for any Linux OS if there was one that could (a) automatically put a "Web" Driver in the Modem during the installation process and (b) which simultaneously is a Linux variant that is not too "heavy" for my puny computer. Incidentally, got the Ubuntu DVD on TradeMe. Cheers Agent_24.	Dragonov (16500)
1223152	2011-09-02 06:52:00	Like you say, Agent_24, this probably should be a new "thread" (?) but if this topic is recommenced somewhere else on NZ PC World Forum (am not even sure how to start a "thread" somewhere else in this Forum!) then will you be able to find it? I need your help! The same way you started this thread - just go to the PressF1 thread index for this forum (here (pressf1.co.nz)) and click the big "Post new thread" button at the top. If you want to make sure anyone reading this can find the new thread, post the link to it in this one. Agent_24, for God's sake PLEASE do not say things such as another Modem might have to be put in. In fact, Agent_24, you are forbidden to make such statements any more!!! Am saying this after having nearly perished from a heart-seizure trying to put new RAM into the PC to try and make it "go better" and it didn't to any extent "go better"!!! Agent_24, will not let you give me a Modem but will buy one from you, only as long as you can supply "Idiot-Proof" installation instructions: my eyesight is not particularly crash-hot either, so tiny little fiddly type stuff is pretty much not possible. Looks like an external modem might be the way to go then - in fact, since most external modems are hardware based a driver is apparently not needed in Linux (That is those that use a standard serial port, not USB) I might have a spare one of those, don't know, Seems it's mainly a stack of PCI cards that are all software-based 'Winmodems' (but you should be able to find a good serial-port external modem on Trademe etc) P.S: Have repeatedly tried to download a "Reader" to open the Driver programme that you provided the link for, but the "Reader" downloads keep failing: have tried downloading it with "GetRight" and also with "straight" Firefox, but nothing works. My "Linux Project" is starting to get a "Flying Dutchman" flavour to it, isn't it? You don't need to open it with any reader, especially not in Windows. You need to save it to your computer, copy it to your USB drive etc, and then copy it into your Ubuntu. Then you need to run it following the instructions outlined on the website. However I think it would be a big headache. In the Ubuntu installation solved the "Keyboard" problem the "Russian" way by slamming everything on the entire keyboard into the "Panel" and then saying "Nyet" to all of the questions There should be a list where you can select the standard "USA" layout which is the most commonly used here in NZ. One last thing, Agent_24, do you think that there might be any kind of Linux OS that might be able to put a " Linux Web Driver" into the type of Modem I have got? Want Ubuntu, but would happily settle for any Linux OS if there was one that could (a) automatically put a "Web" Driver in the Modem during the installation process and (b) which simultaneously is a Linux variant that is not too "heavy" for my puny computer. Incidentally, got the Ubuntu DVD on TradeMe. Cheers Agent_24. Puppy Linux is a lot lighter than Ubuntu and apparently has better dialup modem drivers built-in. Whether they would actually support your current modem I do not know. That was in reference to Puppy 4.3, the current version is 5.2.8 - I assume it still has the drivers but you should probably check if you do get the later version.	Agent_24 (57)
1223153	2011-09-03 12:19:00	Agent_24: thank you very much for your reply, but this stuff is very hard on the head! Am a lover of simplicity and am always fervently (actually, desperately!!!) trying to find it! Even though there is no such thing! So Agent_24, if an "External Dial-Up-Modem" was obtained does that mean that Ubuntu 11.04 can be made to go online with it? Would the Internal Modem that my computer has got in it have to be physically removed, or would the External Modem be able to override the Internal one? Agent_24, would a better computer be the best way to get Linux? If this is the only way, will seriously think about it, and most probably will do it if it means being able to have Linux. These are interesting technical issues though; there are a heck of a lot of people in New Zealand who are poor and have got very old computers, and what we are talking about here, Agent_24, could be very helpful to them. Anyone who has read anything about Linux wants Linux!!! And they want Linux a lot!!!	Dragonov (16500)
1223154	2011-09-03 12:53:00	According to what I've read, an external dialup modem that uses a serial port should be easier to get working than an internal "Softmodem" because the true-hardware external ones don't really need drivers beyond the Linux-supplied serial port drivers . (same applies in Windows, most external serial modems don't need a driver) I can try to get one set up here to make sure it can be done alright in Ubuntu 11 . 04, and if so, will advise on how you can also do it . You wouldn't need to remove the old modem, you could simply plug in a new one and would use that instead . You could then use either of them in Windows, if you still wanted to use Windows as well (Dual-boot etc) A newer computer would let you run stuff like Unity interface and have better 3D graphics support, but without a Linux-supported dialup modem you still wouldn't be able to use the Internet on it . What's more, almost all new computers now don't even have a dialup modem of any kind, and even worse, they often don't have serial ports either, so you'd have even more fun having to find a hardware-based PCI or USB modem that was well-supported in Linux . If your Ubuntu runs OK on your PC as is (aside from the Internet problem) then I wouldn't bother upgrading . And if it doesn't, you could just go for a lighter distribution, like Lubuntu with the LXDE interface instead of Gnome . If you want to upgrade anything, I only advise you to upgrade your Internet connection to ADSL, if you can . I know it's probably the last thing you want to hear, but it's much better than dialup and is much, much easier to setup in Ubuntu .	Agent_24 (57)
1223155	2011-09-04 02:56:00	Agent_24, can an External Modem be easily plugged into a PC? You seem to imply that they do not go into a USB Port (?). Thank you again Agent_24. Agent_24, am not capable of importing a Modem Driver into Ubuntu.	Dragonov (16500)
1223156	2011-09-04 03:08:00	Depends what connection the modem has. Some may have a serial connection, others may have USB. I wouldn't rely on USB, its too unreliable / flaky	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1223157	2011-09-04 03:16:00	The older type external modems connect via a serial port, and are easily plugged in just like USB. The photo attached shows two serial ports, below a parallel port. Looking up your motherboard it shows you have one at the back. It will be easy to find. If you really need to use dialup then this should be much easier than playing around with PCI cards and drivers. The only better solution would be a USB and known-Linux-supported dialup modem such as: www.pp.co.nz (But it's quite expensive!)	Agent_24 (57)
1223158	2011-09-04 08:29:00	Gracius, Agent_24, am going to try and buy the External Modem you have recommended: by "hook or by crook" am going to fight for a way to have Linux!!! Thank you very much Agent_24, your kindness and generosity is very highly appreciated.	Dragonov (16500)
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