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Thread ID: 119874	2011-08-14 12:32:00	Processor For PC: MS-7181 (Socket 940)	Dragonov (16500)	Press F1

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1223109	2011-08-15 21:29:00	Hullo inphinity, dugimodo, 1101, and zqwerty: your posts are very much appreciated. inphinity, you say the PC is "painfully old". I'll say it is!!! However, it is going to have to do for the forseeable future as only live in temporary digs and if I leave am going to have to leave the computer behind. This is one of the primary reasons a much better PC is not an option, unfortunately. The reason for my original posts on the NZ PC World Website was because of bitter disappointment at how little improvement in the operation of the PC more than doubling the RAM made (there is actually some increase of speed in some areas such as Firefox opening up a bit faster, but overall the result is horribly disappointing) and so was trying to find out why the extra RAM has been so ineffectual, and also if a better CPU might help. You guys are the experts, so what you guys say is paid very close attention to, and all your links are gone to as well (some fascinating stuff from those links). It looks like very little can be done to make the antiquated fossil I have got (1101 it is at least 6-7 years old so is catching up to your one!!!) do much more than it can do now. Had to laugh, dugimodo, when you advised not to do too much multitasking! dugimodo, I can barely even unitask on it!!! (hey, the RAM has made one significant improvement, and that is when typing: it used to "stick" all the time when typing and letters in words were always failing to appear on the page due to the"lag". Ever since the new RAM has been installed have had virtually no lag any more, so there actually IS something to show for putting the RAM in!). Thanks again everybody, it is very kind of you all to help. Thanks also to NZ PC World - great Website. P.S: zqwerty - have you read "1984" by George Orwell? It is a fabulous book. Cheers!	Dragonov (16500)
1223110	2011-08-15 23:46:00	Yes, when I was a child.	zqwerty (97)
1223111	2011-08-16 02:50:00	I have had quite a bit to do with this board and the Sempron processor. In fact I currently have one of these units under the bench ready for disposal. This is waht you do:- First FDISK and reformat your hard-drive, then reinstall the software. It will motor along quite briskly afterwards. Do not load it up with too many defences, Free versions of Avast and SuperAntispyware should be quite adequate. Windows XP 32bit does not need more than 1GB DDR and can even slow down with more.	PENTIUM (426)
1223112	2011-08-16 03:08:00	Windows XP 32bit does not need more than 1GB DDR and can even slow down with more. +1 Can confirm this. Some older PC's run slower with 2G Your PC needs to be reloaded, from scratch	1101 (13337)
1223113	2011-08-17 01:51:00	Hullo All: did a complete reformat/reinstall (with great reluctance as had the XP3 fully updated and all of the Antiviruses had massive update cache's as well: my favourite Antivirus is Ad-Aware but it takes HOURS just to install because it needs to do, upon installation, absolutely massive amounts of updating. Am on Dial-Up though, it would probably be virtually instantaneous on high-speed Broadband) and the System is noticeably faster, but still could not be described as "Very Fast". Have re-read all your replies many times now to get as good an idea of what chance there would be of making the computer "go" better, but some people are saying shove a better Processor in, while others are saying it is a waste of time and will make no difference! New Zealand is a very bad place to get computer gear, foreigners cannot believe the prices that are charged for such stuff here (in the USA a stick of Kingston RAM is $15.00, here it is nearly $80.00 ( yes there is an exchange differential but it is NOT very much at all) unless you can find it second-hand like I did, but with freight included it was nearly $50.00): there are people trying to sell on TradeMe ancient CPU's (and all sorts of other obsolete computer parts and computers) for staggering prices. There are people trying to sell exactly the same model of computer that I have got!!! This gear is totally obsolete JUNK and was obsolete junk YEARS ago!!! Thanks again everyone. Incidentally, zqwerty - are you Russian?	Dragonov (16500)
1223114	2011-08-17 02:08:00	A faster CPU will make a difference, but it's impossible to say if it would be enough to satisfy you. The machine still won't be fast, just a bit faster than it is. Yes I agree there are ridiculous prices on trademe, I hope no one actually pays that much. I have given away hardware similar to what you're using before, seems too old to even try to sell to me. A lot of people just don't realise how fast the PC they spent thousands to buy loses Value. PC's have to be one of the worst items for this.	dugimodo (138)
1223115	2011-08-17 02:41:00	Hi dugimodo. Yes, the prices being demanded all over the place are absolutely horrendous - you would fall over if you knew what I paid for my ancient fossil of a thing (there is a local "computer repair man" who sells hideously obsolete junk like mine for hundreds of dollars to technologically ignorant suckers like me!!!) - got it only one year ago for $500.00!!! He sucked me into shelling out another fifty bucks for an ancient Hewlett-Packard Printer from the early/mid 1990's!!! It is completely useless and has never been able to be made to print a single thing!!! Dugimodo, on TradeMe there is this CPU available for $28.00: Socket 764 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Is this a good one? Also, when you say that a better CPU will make a difference, but the degree will depend upon what is expected or wanted, do you mean that to a non-Tech like me a better CPU will still make a noticeable difference improvementwise? The new RAM has not made much difference, although have to admit that things in the OS ARE working in various areas substantially better than they used to, such as opening faster, etc. Cheers dugimodo.	Dragonov (16500)
1223116	2011-08-17 02:53:00	P.S. dugimodo: I once read that there is no other product that depreciates faster than computer gear: the article said that basically, the moment you walk out of the shop with your brand-new computer it has already halved in value! From then on also, the rule in places like the USA and Europe is that from that moment onwards that brand-new computer, which already immediately has halved in it's resale value, will be halved that value again after one year. That figure will halve again after one more year. In Europe and USA and China any computer more than two years old is regarded as rubbish-tip material.	Dragonov (16500)
1223117	2011-08-17 05:22:00	Central African actually, Northern Rhodesian, if you saw "Blood Diamonds" Leonardo de Caprio is playing a Southern Rhodesian.	zqwerty (97)
1223118	2011-08-17 06:11:00	There are people trying to sell exactly the same model of computer that I have got!!! This gear is totally obsolete JUNK and was obsolete junk YEARS ago!!! Hi there, your words. Youve described the main issue. A 1.6Ghz (Sempron 2600+) PC really isnt worth the cost & effort of trying to upgrade it Seems your CPU is only 1.6 or 1.8Ghz (I think), so it isnt fast, but usable . If you can get a 3Ghz CPU & if thats supported by your motherboard, that might be a upgrade option, just dont pay too much for it. I suspect your PC just isnt worth spending money on. You need to almost double the CPU speed to see a worthwhile speed increase. Since your CPU is slower than I 1st though, a replacement 2.8Ghz-3Ghz CPU might be worthwhile, just dont expect miracles. Your have other bottlenecks on that PC. Ive seen Hard drives go bad & cause the PC to run really slow, so that may need to be replaced as well. Unfortunately you wont know untill you try. Have a look at PBTech & some of their ex-lease PC's. That may be a easier option. Good luck.	1101 (13337)
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