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Thread ID: 147963 2019-06-04 06:41:00 Rollback from W10 v 1903 to v 1809 and reinstal 1903 or scrap the lot and start fresh kioti (17360) Press F1
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1461198 2019-06-04 06:41:00 Hi. A question or two about W10 v1903. The Official release.
The 1903 that I have installed has develped a few problems that I have mentioned in other threads so I won't go to deeply into them here.
Calculator was there in 1903 but has disappeared. Seach finds nothing. Using Run to search for Calc.exe finds nothing. Calc file exists in System 32 but is not an exe or .dll. Double click the calc entry and get zero esponse.
Visual C++ 2013 I had notifiaction to remove it. Can't remember if it was Vis C++ 86 or x64.
System restore hadn't completed after 6 hours doing the Registry
Anyway, on to my questions.
I have a full back up of the W10 v1809 Pro I had installed. I can download a new ISO of the W10 v 1903x64 or use the Windows tool to upgrade the v1809 I may roll back to.
Rolling back will cause loss of new Programs/ Updates/ Game advancement that I now have in the 1903 W10 I am running since I upgraded to it
So, would I be best to rollback to v1809 x64 Pro and then upgrade to the latest W10 v 1903 version using the Windows tool or would I be better off scrapping all that is on the C Drive and Fresh instal W10 v1903 Pro x64 and then get all updates and Netfx and Visual C++ and all drivers installed from doing a fresh start?
W10 I have now is on the Corsair Force MP300 M.2 NVMe SSD

thanks
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kioti (17360)
1461199 2019-06-04 08:43:00 Try running a few commands first. From CMD as admin.


sfc /scannow

Then

dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth


"IF" either of those commands appear to hang at any point DONT stop them, as they will b e repairing the faults. Stopping them by force will often cause even more damage.

You can try a repair install if that doesn't sort it.

Simple enough to do. Load up the media 1903 is on, Either DVD or a Mounted ISO ( Not USB) then click on setup.exe and follow onscreen. Once it starts it can take several hours so just let it run, stopping it will almost guarantee an unbootable system.

No Idea as to whats caused the original corruption, can be from many sources.
wainuitech (129)
1461200 2019-06-04 12:46:00 Try running a few commands first. From CMD as admin.


sfc /scannow

Then

dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth


"IF" either of those commands appear to hang at any point DONT stop them, as they will b e repairing the faults. Stopping them by force will often cause even more damage.

You can try a repair install if that doesn't sort it.

Simple enough to do. Load up the media 1903 is on, Either DVD or a Mounted ISO ( Not USB) then click on setup.exe and follow onscreen. Once it starts it can take several hours so just let it run, stopping it will almost guarantee an unbootable system.

No Idea as to whats caused the original corruption, can be from many sources.

wainuitech, cheers. I will try the Command prompts as Admin first...I start doing that now.
As for a Repair install I never considered doing that because the only repair-instal I have ever done when an OS went bad on me was the Repair Upgrade to a higher version of OS which is why when I was using W7 I always installed Professional so I could up to Ultimate if needs be.
I have the W10 Pro x64 v 1903 on DVD, from the link you suppled me a 6 to 8 weeks ago.
I will go perform the CMD prompts now and if no success then I will start the repair install from the DVD and go bed let it do its thing while I seep.
cheers
Garry
kioti (17360)
1461201 2019-06-04 13:35:00 ok I completed the Command prompts, did them separately and not in same Command prompt window.
Both tests completed in 5 minutes each and sfc /scannow found no problems and the dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth operation completed successfully. Rebooted and still no calculator showing in Start/Programs. I will now set the repair instal into motion and maybe watch it for a hour.
kioti (17360)
1461202 2019-06-04 15:49:00 Ok I did the repair install and still no reshow of Calculator in Start -> Programs. When repair install reached 74% computer rebooted, when it came back onscreen I got a window saying "It looks like you started an upgrafe and booted from installation media. If you want to continue with the upgrade , remove the media from your PC and click Yes. If you want to perform a clean installation instead, click No" well I didn't boot from installation disc I was running the repair install from open W10 and on reboot I did not click to boot from dvd or cd.When given the choices of clicking Yes or No I took a stab at clicking Yes because I didn't want a clean installation. Maybe I do not understand MS Windows logical English! I mean I was doing a clean installation as a repair installation having opted to keep all apps and settings!
This is beyond my simple brain really. What is the logic in that Window and its two options? Beyond this halfwit!
Methinks its rollback to 1809 from the Windows.old in the C Drive and then upgrade to 1903 again either from the DVD I have created or get it direct installed using the Windows tool or the update assistant. Or maybe I just don't trust them because I so thick in the head and can't understand Yank English so I just Dload the ISO and throw out all I have in C Drive apart from docs and pics and any media files I will save elsewhere, and I do a Clean Fresh installation of W10 v 1903.
A few pics where someone may be able to tell me that I shoulda click option No :D
Cheers wainuitech, much obliged for your help and suggestions

Garry
kioti (17360)
1461203 2019-06-04 20:56:00 Did 1803 have the Calculator installed? If so then "Methinks its rollback to 1809 from the Windows.old in the C Drive and then upgrade to 1903 again either from the DVD I have created". However, is the DVD made from a downloaded copy of the Media ISO to be used on "other installations at a later time"? If so OK. If not, I would do it again so that the DVD could be used on other installations, don't quite know why my mind says this other than it should apply all the necessary addons such as Calculator and give you a sound operating system. I wouldn't tie your system up trying to upgrade from the MS download to your system, do it by ISO. Bryan (147)
1461204 2019-06-04 21:53:00 To finish off this thread, I will say that I did the upgrade install again but this time I used the MediaCreation Tool 1903, and chose option "Upgrade this computer now" The program was downloaded and install began with option to keep all apps etc. Many updates were downloaded also. When it reached 74% installing I was waiting for it to restart like it did when I used the DVD of 1903. Happily I saw it go to 75% and steadily climb to 89% where it was hanging for 7-8minutes (as it did many times through the install) I looked away from screen for a couple of secs and showed it was going to restart. When it did it began installing the updates and after 3 restarts update install reached 100% (which it didn't the last attempt to repair install. Then after 3rd restart I had to log in to get windows usable and I was greeted with a lack screen and the word Hi. Then We have updates for you...after all was done I had open desktop. Sadly, Calculator is still not there for me to use. Baffles me that the Calc (exe) is in Windows System 32 and SysWOW64 ad will not show in Start/Programs. So at the end of the day now its a case of tolerate the no calc and get a 3rd party gadget of calculator.. roll back to v1899 that did have calculator, again try the upgrade save all apps etc, or Start from scratch. I will decide on that by the weekend. If I do the Fresh instal of W10 Pro v1903 x 64 well I just might buy a new M.2 NVMe for it and keep the existing one to play with as a 'try and fix it' challenge.
Cheers and thanks.

Garry
kioti (17360)
1461205 2019-06-04 22:27:00 If you click on the windows store, in search type in Calc Click it

9681


Does it say its Installed and Launch or Install ??

If it says its installed then there's still more that can be done, have a read, methods 2, 5,and 6.


Edited: helps if I put the link :) ugetfix.com
wainuitech (129)
1461206 2019-06-04 23:10:00 ...

Simple enough to do. Load up the media 1903 is on, Either DVD or a Mounted ISO ( Not USB) then click on setup.exe and follow onscreen. ...

MS still having problems with USB?
bk T (215)
1461207 2019-06-04 23:32:00 MS still having problems with USB? No Idea, I i'm still using a slightly earlier ISO ( when it first came out to public) so they may have sorted it by now. But on the insider forum its been mentioned it wont be fixed until the next release.

BTW, its usually only if trying to upgrade from a USB ( doesn't effect all USB installs) , done quite a few fresh installs and upgrades from USB without any problems.
wainuitech (129)
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