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| Thread ID: 148307 | 2019-10-27 04:02:00 | Sundays Joke - I'm Sorry. | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
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| 1464691 | 2019-10-28 07:00:00 | There is nothing more precious in the Universe than a planet that can be used as a base to support a civilization. Earth so far is the only one we are sure of, a prize beyond belief for any space faring warriors, if they're out there sooner or later they'll be coming to take it off us, if it's not too far gone with an ice age after the global warming cycle has completed, they'll have to wait a couple of hundred thousand years or more if we have stuffed it up really badly. However I don't think they will be coming, as I think abuse of the original planet that evolved the 'intelligent' species is "the great filter" I've posted about before. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1464692 | 2019-10-28 07:11:00 | There are very good reasons why we look the way we do, bipedal, to lift the brain above the savanna plain to allow for cooling as well as to spot danger and prey, binocular vision and stereo hearing are very important, very good stamina for hunting. Opposing thumb. I dare say that any species who will be a threat to us will be very much like us, these aren't really my ideas, this sort of speculation was very common in the 70's and was well thought through and the consensus was that how we have evolved is close to optimum for an alpha species. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1464693 | 2019-10-28 17:15:00 | I dare say that any species who will be a threat to us will be very much like us, these aren't really my ideas, this sort of speculation was very common in the 70's and was well thought through and the consensus was that how we have evolved is close to optimum for an alpha species. Personally I think that really depends on what you consider an alpha species. Put us alone and naked on an island full of wild animals including some apex predators and we are one of the least likely animals to survive. Our intelligence, tool making abilities, and tendency to group up to face danger, are our only advantages and none of them necessarily depend on being bipedal. Binocular vision is very common and our hearing is among the worst in the animal kingdom. I think the great filter Idea is incredibly pessimistic and my personal feeling is that it's simply an issue of scale. Of the 13 billion years or so the universe has been around in it's current form we have existed as a noticeably intelligent civilisation for the merest of instants and been detectable for a few decades at best. It's incredibly unlikely that an intelligent civilisation just happens to exist close enough to use both in time and space to have noticed us and then have the resources, the means, and the inclination to come and have a look. Then there's the fact that we don't even know if it's possible, if Seti found proof of an intelligent transmission a few hundred light years away what would we do about it? How long until we could investigate and would they still be there if we did? |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1464694 | 2019-10-28 19:38:00 | Earth .... a prize beyond belief for any space faring warriors, if they're out there sooner or later they'll be coming to take it off us, . See? Humans expect them to think like us. We know nothing. In our empty and distant corner of the universe and our wee scopes, we think there are other planets that would support OUR lifeforms (never mind other life forms that even on earth don't need our narrow range of conditions). And if some species elsewhere had the ability to zoom about the universe in some way, why the hell would they care about our rock? They would have plenty to chose from. Probably they could even skip rocks altogether and make artificial worlds (Read Iain M Banks). |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1464695 | 2019-10-28 19:49:00 | But will they repeal the Carbon Tax? :eek: | B.M. (505) | ||
| 1464696 | 2019-10-28 20:26:00 | B.M. You seem to be more of the PF1 joke than anybody else. Seems all you do is post nonsense and insult members whenever they voice their opinions. I wonder how much longer you will continue to get away with insulting and abusing members. |
QW. (15883) | ||
| 1464697 | 2019-10-28 21:01:00 | Any species that has as its main raison d'etre 'to think beautiful thoughts' and smile on the rest of the Universe is a product of fiction. May as well believe in Christianity, piroska. We are like we are for very good reasons and they are the same, having come through the same evolutionary challenge. The Period Table is the same anywhere in the Universe because it's the only solution to the existence of matter necessity for there to be carbon based lifeforms, carbon is the only option to build sentient life which will be able to design and assemble machines. (Opposing thumb is very important) There aren't going to be a whole lot of fantastic creatures like intelligent jelly fish/octopus or whatever. "Life is hard, then you die". "Laugh or cry". |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1464698 | 2019-10-28 23:06:00 | Any species that has as its main raison d'etre 'to think beautiful thoughts' and smile on the rest of the Universe is a product of fiction . May as well believe in Christianity, piroska . We are like we are for very good reasons and they are the same, having come through the same evolutionary challenge . There aren't going to be a whole lot of fantastic creatures like intelligent jelly fish/octopus or whatever . . Never mind evolution, we can make an effort to be nice to each other, or others . Not being nice is a lame excuse . And you have no idea about intelligent jellyfish or whatever . Intelligent does not always equal making stuff . And even if making stuff is your criteria, smarts mean you think of methods around the lack of thumbs . . . although tentacles would work quite well really . |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1464699 | 2019-10-29 06:12:00 | All lifeforms anywhere in the Universe will be carbon atom based, this is because the 4 valency electrons have a tetrahedral structure and are in the 2nd orbit close to the nucleus, no other atom has this structure and it is the only one that can produce both humans and diamonds for instance. Any wild imaginings about weird aliens are just that. This is the "best world in the best of all possible worlds" as they say, a prize in the Universe beyond any others and we are trashing it. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1464700 | 2019-10-29 06:24:00 | Latest news on the evolution of modern humans: www.france24.com |
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