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Thread ID: 148303 2019-10-24 07:01:00 Thursday's Joke B.M. (505) PC World Chat
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1464656 2019-10-26 18:22:00 Without reading any of B.oringM.embers posts I'm guessing that once again he knows far more than all the experts put together and would have had the fire put out in 23 seconds. gary67 (56)
1464657 2019-10-26 18:42:00 For that matter compost heaps can burn too. They get hot in the middle!!
I don't mind the Greens intentions, it's their solutions (often) I have a problem with, they don't seem to think half the time.
piroska (17583)
1464658 2019-10-26 20:48:00 None the less, the Green Luddite’s that walk unrestrained amongst us brainlessly march on.
The Luddites (no apostrophe) were a 19th century group of workers who destroyed machines they thought would take away their jobs. These days the term is used to describe anyone who is opposed to progress. While the Greens certainly question whether all "advancements" are actually in the global interest, they don't just brainlessly spout old tired cliches opposing well proven climate change effects. That seems more Luddite-ish to me.
Tony (4941)
1464659 2019-10-26 21:34:00 Apparently it is well known that hay bales can spontaneously combust with the right/wrong combination of factors even though being perfectly stable before the event. Dampness and humidity are factors, it seems that old time farmers used to put their hands on/between hay bales to see if they were getting warm or not to predict a possible fire. I'd guess it's a feature of composting.

Maybe not a good choice of material (straw) to use on such an important building, especially sealed between bitumen rubber and plywood.
zqwerty (97)
1464660 2019-10-27 01:46:00 Without reading any of B.oringM.embers posts I'm guessing that once again he knows far more than all the experts put together and would have had the fire put out in 23 seconds.

He seems to be the PF1 know-it-all on everything.
QW. (15883)
1464661 2019-10-27 01:47:00 I don't mind the Greens intentions, it's their solutions (often) I have a problem with, they don't seem to think half the time.
their cures tend to be worse than the disease.

i don't know how the straw was being installed. if it was a pre made panel or simply packed in during construction. silly thing is that straw bales are regarded as more fireproof than wood. you can use a blow torch on it without it catching fire.
so it will be interesting to see what the investigation finds.
a sprinkler system would have mad no difference as there is usually no sprinklers in the roof area. they are usually only for floors where people are, so that gives people time to get out.
tweak'e (69)
1464662 2019-10-27 02:50:00 There's an article on The Herald that explains how the roof was constructed under the title of "Anatomy of the centre" HERE (www.nzherald.co.nz).

Interesting piece
When he was shown details during a tour of the roof, the company told him they were "very aware" of the potential combustibility of the straw and ply during construction if a fire broke out, and were taking precautions to prevent it. Yeah - that didn't work to well did it ;)
wainuitech (129)
1464663 2019-10-27 03:28:00 Without reading any of B.oringM.embers posts I'm guessing that once again he knows far more than all the experts put together and would have had the fire put out in 23 seconds.

Oh hello Gary, good to see you back and blessing us with yet another one of your outstanding contributions. :thumbs:
B.M. (505)
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