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Thread ID: 117588 2011-04-25 21:29:00 Powhiri baabits (15242) PC World Chat
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1197158 2011-04-26 06:54:00 Don't worry about it ... speak in our second language - English

Ken

bahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! :thumbs:
allblack (6574)
1197159 2011-04-26 07:24:00 To understand what a powhiri entails go to
www.korero.maori.nz
This may help you

I agree with WalOne "Tena koutou, tena koutou, tena tatou katoa." is an appropriate phrase as a welcome.
ooh yeh (2935)
1197160 2011-04-26 09:45:00 ? R2x1 (4628)
1197161 2011-04-26 09:51:00 ?

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kenj (9738)
1197162 2011-04-26 09:58:00 I'll second that. R2x1 (4628)
1197163 2011-04-26 10:16:00 I would show some integrity and refuse. nerd89 (14761)
1197164 2011-04-26 11:46:00 +2
PC bullsh1t!
feersumendjinn (64)
1197165 2011-04-26 12:14:00 How should it be pronounced?

Puffery or poofery? Pretty sure it's not powfery.
R2x1 (4628)
1197166 2011-04-27 07:18:00 Absolutely unprofessional in this day and age - prayers have no relevance in a professional setting in a secular society. And the welcome could have been covered in a single sentence rather than a song that no-one understood.
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There is something I attend on a regular basis where the organiser at the beginning of the meeting asks if someone would "like to take us in a karakia and waiata". The first time I was there I asked why we had to do that and got a rather vague explanation involving protocols and "bringing ourselves from where we were to this place now". There is always a long pause before somebody (usually one of two people) volunteers to do it. At which point they all stand up, decide what song to sing (in Maori) and do it. This is followed by some sort of prayer, usually mumbled at a very low volume. They've got used to me remaining seated thru the whole thing. It's then repeated at the end of the meeting 90 minutes later (at least it ends on time!).

Next week the same person will be running a meeting about something else in another context. I won't be jumping up and down with excitement, or for any other reason.

When you go onto a Marae you'd expect it - same as the sort of carry on that you'd get by going into a church on a Sunday, or into a mosque, or into my mum's front room - in those situations there's a (relevant?) cultural context, but just because "that's what we do"? Nah!
tuiruru (12277)
1197167 2011-04-27 07:27:00 There is something I attend on a regular basis where the organiser at the beginning of the meeting asks if someone would "like to take us in a karakia and waiata" . The first time I was there I asked why we had to do that and got a rather vague explanation involving protocols and "bringing ourselves from where we were to this place now" . There is always a long pause before somebody (usually one of two people) volunteers to do it . At which point they all stand up, decide what song to sing (in Maori) and do it . This is followed by some sort of prayer, usually mumbled at a very low volume . They've got used to me remaining seated thru the whole thing . It's then repeated at the end of the meeting 90 minutes later (at least it ends on time!) .

Next week the same person will be running a meeting about something else in another context . I won't be jumping up and down with excitement, or for any other reason .

When you go onto a Marae you'd expect it - same as the sort of carry on that you'd get by going into a church on a Sunday, or into a mosque, or into my mum's front room - in those situations there's a (relevant?) cultural context, but just because "that's what we do"? Nah!

Try doing what I didn't have the balls to do at the time - get up and walk out . Noisily . Complaining about "superstitious bullshit", and muttering the words "unprofessional" and "PC crap" and "waste of my time" .

Or, if he use the words "I would like to take us in a karakia and waiata" - stand up and say you would prefer that he didn't, as it offends your religious beliefs . And stay standing until he gets on with the meeting .

Or get up and stand just outside the door, and poke your head around the door every minute or so and ask if they're finished yet . Loudly .

If it's a formal meeting, does it have an agenda? Are the singing and prayer listed as agenda items? If not you could possibly object on that basis, but I suspect that would be a one-off and he would ensure it was included on the agenda for the next meeting .
johcar (6283)
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