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Thread ID: 117674 2011-04-28 22:14:00 Sick Of The Royal Wedding. Trev (427) PC World Chat
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1198178 2011-05-02 02:33:00 My god, that's as weak as the last argument.

I've got something right here for the queen, and it ain't an oath of allegiance

:pf1mobmini:
Metla (12)
1198179 2011-05-02 02:41:00 My god, that's as weak as the last argument.

I've got something right here for the queen, and it ain't an oath of allegiance

:pf1mobmini:

I thought you wouldn't like it, being a subject of the Queen, but it is fact, not argument, not open to dispute however much you may not like it, as was my post about swearing the oath of allegiance. Of course you could always renounce your citizenship and go and live elsewhere ?
Terry Porritt (14)
1198180 2011-05-02 02:43:00 I love being part of the empire (snip)

There is still an empire? Whose empire? Egyptian, Roman, Hun, British, American, Russian, German, Nippon? NZ has an empire/is an empire/is part of an empire? OMG, I missed that bit. Wow! Who is the emperor? Haile Selassi?

I think you need to come out of the 19th Century, fella!
John H (8)
1198181 2011-05-02 02:50:00 I thought you wouldn't like it, being a subject of the Queen, but it is fact, not argument, not open to dispute however much you may not like it, as was my post about swearing the oath of allegiance. Of course you could always renounce your citizenship and go and live elsewhere ?

Gosh Terry, you must have been brought up in England or somewhere else where they habitually tug the forelock.

There isn't anything magical about the monarchy you know. The queen has said that she regards it as entirely an internal matter for Commonwealth countries whether they retain the monarchy or not.

Newsflash for you. It doesn't require any Kiwi to leave the country if they don't want to continue to tug the forelock and bow and scrape like the Pongolians do. We could simply change the law that recognises the English queen as being the NZ queen, and set up a new constitutional arrangement.

This arrangement is totally within the power of the NZ voting public, no treason required. Unfortunately, it appears at the moment that not enough of us want to see NZ grow up and finally throw off the shackles of the old empire and paddle our own waka. Equally unfortunately, it appears as though William has generated enough hysteria to save the monarchy.
John H (8)
1198182 2011-05-02 02:57:00 But no person has yet told me just how the citizens of New Zealand would benefit from becoming a Republic and who would create a list we could choose from to vote the first President in. Snorkbox (15764)
1198183 2011-05-02 02:59:00 We can understand your sentiments but if you replace the Queen with a figurehead president which is largely a ceremonial post you have the same problem.
The prez is almost always an ex politician that everyone hates like Shimon Peres of isrel picked by the ruling government of the time.

Well, that hasn't been the case with any Gov Gen since Kiwi Keith's unpopular appointment. It MAY be the same with a figurehead head of state.


In NZ I am sure it will a thousand year run of females and non Caucasians is that what you want?

Well, that hasn't been the case with Gov Gen appointments since they stopped importing pompous dead white men from England. There has been a pretty good balance of Gov Gen appointments. Mind you, if Brash became the Prime Minister, we would have a thousand year run of males and Caucasians if that what you want...
John H (8)
1198184 2011-05-02 02:59:00 (snip) who would create a list we could choose from to vote the first President in.

You don't listen, do you?
John H (8)
1198185 2011-05-02 03:01:00 You don't listen, do you?

You don't or can't answer the question anyway. Selective quoting again.

Sigh.
Snorkbox (15764)
1198186 2011-05-02 03:04:00 I thought you wouldn't like it, being a subject of the Queen, but it is fact, not argument, not open to dispute however much you may not like it, as was my post about swearing the oath of allegiance. Of course you could always renounce your citizenship and go and live elsewhere ?

I feel sorry for you.
Metla (12)
1198187 2011-05-02 03:04:00 You don't or can't answer the question anyway. Selective quoting again.

Sigh.

I did answer the question about your presumptive question about a list and voting. You just can't read.

Regarding the other part of your question, it isn't anyone's responsibility to educate you. However, if you can't do it yourself, here is a source of answers for you (I don't agree with all that they say, but this might start you thinking - a dangerous assumption on my part, I know, given your track record on other threads on this forum): www.republic.org.nz

BTW, are you and KenSmith the same person, because he asked the identical question about a list and voting? I answered him already on that question.
John H (8)
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