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Thread ID: 120269	2011-09-01 05:59:00	Gaming Solution	xXjaspaXx (16525)	Press F1

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1228051	2011-09-02 08:17:00	Thank you for all the help, I should no longer have to worry about a PSU or MB as I should be able to take the ones out of my mothers PC, any recommendations for graphics cards and processors? These are the main things that I am worried about finding as they are the most important part of a gaming rigg, thanks again for all the help much appreciated	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228052	2011-09-02 08:31:00	Question; What would be a better motherboard to get? AMD or Intel? just wondering as I have noticed AMD MB's do not support Intel parts, so what would I be better off to get? I'm just confused by this as am not sure whether AMD or Intel are better for gaming, the case I'm looking at only supports ATX Mother boards but I could find another case if need be, thanks for all the help guys it's much appreciated	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228053	2011-09-02 09:11:00	AMD will be far cheaper. Example: AMD 965 X4 BE for $200 will out perform the closest priced intel cpu (i3 2100 or 2120) @ $188-$218. Also if you get an old AMD motherboard make sure it has an AM3 socket and like wise for intel at least a 775 (core 2 duo/quad) ,a 1155 or 1156 for the igeneration cpus. I would personally recommend AMD. Also would you still be prepared to $800 now that you dont need a mobo or psu. If so you could probably spend more on the gpu but make sure the psu is up to a more powerful gpu.	icow (15313)
1228054	2011-09-02 09:57:00	What would be a better motherboard to get? AMD or Intel? You can't use the old MB. Motherboards are specific, socket wise - for the newer CPUs, RAM wise for DDR3 now, and also what other connectors and stuff they have. You decide on what CPU you want and match the motherboard. AMD and Intel is like Ford and Holden. Or is that Holden and Ford. Pepsi and Coke. Whatever. The absolute top best high end CPU is currently Intels - but that's not in your budget anyway and yes, in general AMD is a lot cheaper than INtel So go with AMD, more money for the rest of the stuff then. Don't skimp on graphics.	pctek (84)
1228055	2011-09-02 11:17:00	ok so AMD it is, I'm not sure on the age of the motherboard in the current PC we have but I'm pretty sure it's relatively new as it was a custom build by my mothers work friend. here is the motherboard I am looking at for the time being, can anyone let me know if it is any good? I have never really had the need to look at motherboards before so don't really understand how to read the specs >.< www.playtech.co.nz also the PSU I have should be enough to run the system as the rig it is currently in is rather power hungry as it has to run 6 fans and interior lighting etc. I would be surprised if it didn't have enough power to run the new system, but i shall look into it when i pull it apart :D also what should I look for to make sure that the graphics card will be compatible with the motherboard. this is the processor I am looking at also: www.playtech.co.nz I may be able to get a discount on parts due to my mothers work discount which will help me in the long run :) so feel free to make slightly more expensive part suggestions	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228056	2011-09-02 11:47:00	That board is a bit useless as the second pci-e slot is only x4. If you have the money to sli/cf you would want at least x8. sli/cf is the only reason I'd buy that board and its not even that good for it. If you are going to use that cpu there is no point in getting a board that will sli/cf. Also for gaming I would not use that cpu go for at least a 955 X4. If you are going for a budget build from playtech I'd get this: www.playtech.co.nz I would say that dugimodo's second pc is your best bet.	icow (15313)
1228057	2011-09-02 11:59:00	If you have the money to sli/cf you would want at least x8. sli/cf is the only reason I'd buy that board and its not even that good for it. If you are going to use that cpu there is no point in getting a board that will sli/cf. Thanks for the pointer, question though, what is sli/cf? also what is the difference between the CPU i am looking at and a 955 X4?	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228058	2011-09-02 12:38:00	Ok I've had a look around at CPU's on PlayTech and found this: www.playtech.co.nz I took icow's comment into account and decided that I'd making the motherboard that he suggested an option and am now wondering if it would be compatible with the above CPU, here is the Motherboard: www.playtech.co.nz Also I have had trouble finding RAM for DDR3 DIMM sockets, if anyone could again make some sort of suggestions that would be great :)	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228059	2011-09-02 12:56:00	also A Graphics Card suggestion would be awesome, I'm not very experienced when it comes to this kind of stuff although I wont have a problem putting it all together, so thanks for the help	xXjaspaXx (16525)
1228060	2011-09-02 23:52:00	Ok a couple of charts for you to consider, read the blurb above the chart so you understand what it means. Even better go to the first page and read the whole article. www.tomshardware.com Pick a graphics card as high up the chart as you can go. Also www.tomshardware.com Pick a CPU as high as you can go on that. Dont worry about intel or AMD, and bear in mind opinions as to which is better are seldom unbiased, most benchmarks show that at the same price they tend to perform very close to each other depending on the task. (you'll note the i3 2100 is in fact rated higher than most black edition phenoms, the chart is purely about gaming at other things 4 cores makes more difference). Where AMD do rule is in the lost cost area with cheap motherboards and CPUs available, intel win in the high end performance department (for now anyway) I'd consider a 560 ti as high as you need to go, but it may even be overkill depending on your screen. Bottom line for you: Any modern dual or quad core CPU over 3Ghz can play games reasonably well, intels performance lead generally means a dual core i3 will game as well as a quad core phenom The graphics card is usually the biggest performance point in a gaming system, but some games do also push the cpu. DDR3 RAM should be easy to find, it's very common right now. Buy a dual channel kit to avoid issues (its a matched pair tested to work together). The FANS and lights mean nothing, a CPU can draw over 100 watts, a graphics card 200+ ( high end ones draw insane amounts ) Fans draw less than 5 watts, typically 0.25~2watts, lights also draw bugger all. Post the model and wattage of you PSU and we'll tell you if it's good enoough, same with the motherbard you want to re-use. I'd reccomend: Any i3 or i5 or phenom over 3Ghz - don't buy into the rivallry 4G Dual channel DDR3, 8G is better but only if you will run 64 bit windows and can spare the money on the chart I linked any graphics card above the level of say a 550 ti / 6770. To give you a refernce for the chart, if I use a single one of my GTX460's I can play anything at 1920 x 1080 if I dont crank the eye candy too high, games look good and run smoothly on it.	dugimodo (138)
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