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Thread ID: 120335 2011-09-04 14:00:00 7+ year old PC with old internal Modem: how can Ubuntu 11.04 get online with this PC? Dragonov (16500) Press F1
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1228718 2011-09-25 11:34:00 P.P.S, Agent_24: is it true that, if they wanted to, ISP's could give their Dial-Up users faster speeds by cranking up the compression levels at the ISP Server-end?

Cheers Agent_24.
Dragonov (16500)
1228719 2011-09-25 21:13:00 I don't know. I would assume the ISP supports all types of compression, and it's up to your modem etc what level of compression is performed.

Of course, some files will compress better than others, so it also depends on what you are downloading at the time. I always had compression turned on when I used dialup, but I have no idea how much difference it made!

Haven't checked speed of my modem, it was connected at 115kbps (serial port speed only, of course!) in Windows.
Agent_24 (57)
1228720 2011-09-25 23:19:00 Have just been reading your latest Posts, Agent_24, and have rigged up the PC to the External Modem (writing this on it now!) and have copied-and-pasted onto "Wordpad" the Linux information you provided. Am going to put that into the Linux USB Flash-Drive and hope that, after going into Ubuntu, it can be accessed in order to precisely follow your instructions for getting Linux Ubuntu Firefox to at last obtain access to the Web!

Am going to try it now Agent_24: You also are correct, there is actually no really noticeable speed difference between the Internal and External Modems.

Thank you Agent_24.
Dragonov (16500)
1228721 2011-09-26 06:27:00 Agent_24: your instructions say:

"Go to the advanced settings, and make sure your modem is turned on and hit the 'detect' button - some lights should flash on the modem and it should complete the detection without error".

But where are the "Advanced Settings"??? Cannot find any such thing in Gnome ppp.

You also say that after hitting the "Detect" button in "Advanced Settings", that the Username, Password, and ISP phone number should be entered. Entered where, and in what? How is this area navigated to???

Cheers, Agent_24.
Dragonov (16500)
1228722 2011-09-26 06:39:00 Sorry, wasn't very specific

When you load gnome-ppp you will get this:
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There you can enter your username, password, and phone number, but it wouldn't likely work because you haven't chosen the modem.


So, you need to press "Settings" which will take you to this:
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Once there, you need to click the 'Detect' button. Lights should flash on your modem and it should be detected. Make sure it's turned on and plugged in.

If it detects successfully it may not say anything but the device path will change to the correct name.

If it doesn't work, it will throw up an error message. If that happens, post the error here.


After you've detected the modem, and entered your username etc, you can try connecting. It may or may not work, depending on your ISP, or other reasons.

If it doesn't connect, or has some other problem, post the error\log here. I had a couple of issues when setting mine up and I guess the same may happen to you.
Agent_24 (57)
1228723 2011-09-26 08:01:00 Okay, thank you for the elaboration Agent_24; will have a go at it tomorrow when it will be easier to see when rigging up the Modem. Dragonov (16500)
1228724 2011-09-27 00:20:00 Hi Agent_24. Have got to reiterate, where is this "Settings" you are talking about: I cannot find "Settings" anywhere.

The Gnome-ppp panel (where you put your ISP Username, Passwords, and ISP phone number) has only got three buttons on it - "Quit", "Setup", and "Connect". "Connect" is a dead-end. "Setup" has got three configuration panels, but nowhere in it is "Settings" or a "Detect" button. Have looked everywhere and cannot find them at all.

Had a disastrous morning: having failed to find "Settings" and "Detect", decided to mess around with the Tool-Bar and Task-Bar: had coloured them, but the colours would often only partially appear along the Bars after Bootup. So was trying to mess with the colouring, and accidentally deleted the Tool-Bar!!!

Couldn't find a way to reinstate it so had to drag out the XP3 Installation CD, delete Ubuntu, and then reinstall it again. It seemed to take a lot longer to install than it did last time, but was damned frustrated and not exactly falling about the place chortling with merriment!!!

Have been in and out of Ubuntu and Windows like a damn yo-you and have had to switch Modems many times. The External Modem, when used with Windows, has a nasty habit of frequently breaking it's connection - it often breaks several times in the space of only a few minutes. It also once today made that ominous "Stick-On-The-Washboard" noise.

Am starting to think this project has got a Hoodoo on it, like The Ancient Mariner (but did not shoot an albatross!!!). Will probably get Scurvy next!!!

Well Agent_24, am gonna have a break now, will check back here this evening. Cheerio Agent_24.
Dragonov (16500)
1228725 2011-09-27 00:54:00 Hi Agent_24 . Have got to reiterate, where is this "Settings" you are talking about: I cannot find "Settings" anywhere .

Sorry, I meant the "Setup" button!


The Gnome-ppp panel (where you put your ISP Username, Passwords, and ISP phone number) has only got three buttons on it - "Quit", "Setup" , and "Connect" . "Connect" is a dead-end . "Setup" has got three configuration panels, but nowhere in it is "Settings" or a "Detect" button . Have looked everywhere and cannot find them at all .

Right here:
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Had a disastrous morning: having failed to find "Settings" and "Detect", decided to mess around with the Tool-Bar and Task-Bar: had coloured them, but the colours would often only partially appear along the Bars after Bootup . So was trying to mess with the colouring, and accidentally deleted the Tool-Bar!!!

You could rebuild it by right-clicking on the other toolbar (actually called a panel) and selecting "New panel"

Then you just need to change its settings so it's in the right place, and re-add the items to it (Right-click -> "Add to panel")



The External Modem, when used with Windows, has a nasty habit of frequently breaking it's connection - it often breaks several times in the space of only a few minutes . It also once today made that ominous "Stick-On-The-Washboard" noise .

I wonder if it's got something to do with the fact that the phone plug was loose in that modem jack?

You could try bending the little clip out from the plug a bit (don't do it too hard\far or it'll snap off) and then try plugging it in .

Unfortunately, without actually being able to hear the noise you describe it's hard to think of what it could be . It might just be the standard noise it makes when it disconnects from the phone line .
Agent_24 (57)
1228726 2011-09-27 06:38:00 Hullo Agent_24, thanks very much for your reply: will rig up the External Modem tomorrow and go back into Linux Ubuntu to hopefully get those configurations nailed. Hey incidentally, Agent_24, you use Screen Snapshots a lot, and am wondering what Snapshot programme you use? There seem to be a lot of them around, and, never having used any before, am wondering what one or ones you would recommend? They look like they would be a very useful kind of programme to have on the Deck.

Cheers for your advice about the "Panels" (Toolbar/Taskbar) - will certainly use your instructions to try and rescue the situation if I do something brainless to them again!!!

The Modem, Agent_24, am completely in the dark: it is very strange how the plug is such a tight fit in the Internal Modem, and locks into it so tenaciously, and yet is a slack fit in the External Modem. Am trying to get another phone line (that short one on TradeMe; the auction closes tonight) so there is one for the Internal Modem and one for the External; might be able to bend the lever up a bit on the External Modem plug as you advise so it gets forced tighter on the contacts, but if the connection breakages keep happening might be able to "wedge" something in there with the plug to try and make it go tightly onto the contacts. There's gotta be a way.

Well Agent_24, better go have a look at that auction, Ciao for now, and apologies for being a bit grumpy earlier, but it aint been a good day from the outset, and the weather was not helping - it's been like a sauna bath - sweltering humidity, and am severely allergic to it.
Dragonov (16500)
1228727 2011-09-27 10:23:00 you use Screen Snapshots a lot, and am wondering what Snapshot programme you use? There seem to be a lot of them around, and, never having used any before, am wondering what one or ones you would recommend? They look like they would be a very useful kind of programme to have on the Deck.

Actually those aren't my screenshots - but you can easily do them yourself (and don't need a separate program at all) - all you need is the "Print Screen" (sometimes PrtScr, and usually also labeled as "SysRq") button on your keyboard.

Pressing it will copy an image of the current display to the clipboard. Then all you need to do is open an image editing program, paste the image in and save it as an image file. You can of course edit it and do whatever you like to it.


In Windows, I paste straight into MSPaint and save from there. XP and below can be done this way most easily. Vista \ Win7 actually come with a screenshot tool, although I usually never use it, as the printscreen button is faster.

Pressing Alt+PrintScreen lets you copy the currently active window instead of the entire screen.


In Ubuntu, the procedure is much the same, although when you press PrintScreen it will automatically ask where you wish to save the image. Thus you can edit it afterwards without having to paste it into a editing program (Although you probably can still do so if you wished)


The Modem, Agent_24, am completely in the dark: it is very strange how the plug is such a tight fit in the Internal Modem, and locks into it so tenaciously, and yet is a slack fit in the External Modem. Am trying to get another phone line (that short one on TradeMe; the auction closes tonight) so there is one for the Internal Modem and one for the External; might be able to bend the lever up a bit on the External Modem plug as you advise so it gets forced tighter on the contacts, but if the connection breakages keep happening might be able to "wedge" something in there with the plug to try and make it go tightly onto the contacts. There's gotta be a way.

Well Agent_24, better go have a look at that auction, Ciao for now, and apologies for being a bit grumpy earlier, but it aint been a good day from the outset, and the weather was not helping - it's been like a sauna bath - sweltering humidity, and am severely allergic to it.

It is really rather odd. Maybe you will get more luck with a different cable. Make sure about jamming stuff in there though you really have got it correct - those spring contacts can be a bit tricky to restore to proper tension if they get bent.

No worries about your previous thread, I certainly do not like that kind of weather either!
Agent_24 (57)
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