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| Thread ID: 120335 | 2011-09-04 14:00:00 | 7+ year old PC with old internal Modem: how can Ubuntu 11.04 get online with this PC? | Dragonov (16500) | Press F1 |
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| 1228678 | 2011-09-21 16:43:00 | Botched this post, gonna try again. | Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228679 | 2011-09-21 16:55:00 | Hallelujah Agent_24, they are all installed!!! (as you suspected, Agent_24, only gnome-ppp is shown in that "Applications > Internet" drop-down list you described earlier): got a hell of a fright to start with though, because Ubuntu was rejecting everything, but the way that it was doing it made me end up suspecting eventually that it might be the Formatting of the USB Drive (it was probably FAT32) so found the Ubuntu Formatter and let Ubuntu Format it (Ubuntu made it FAT). Went out and into XP3 to get more files from your Posts, and then went back into Ubuntu with the files put into the reFormatted USB Drive. It worked! The first file when double-clicked saw Ubuntu File Center Panel immediately appear, and the file installed easily. But the next one did not - it got rejected! Pressed the "Reinstall" button after the panic had subsided a bit, and she went in good as gold!!! Nearly passed out!!! Several others initially got rejected as well but they all went in on "Reinstall". Those rejections were pretty traumatising though!!! Wow, what a night! But a damn good one thanks to you Agent_24: you have hauled me out of some nasty jams that I could not have solved. It's heck of a good of you to have gone to substantial lengths yet again to help me by obtaining and then placing those files on NZ PC World for me and writing the excellent instructions: YAY!!! LINUX!!! LINUX!!! ONLINE SOON!!! And all thanks to you Agent_24. Cheers! (Modem should be arriving any day now). Gonna now go look for that "Clam AV" you pointed me to and then go read that Wikipedia article about Linux viruses you put the Link to (been up all night with Ubuntu - was in-and-out of Ubuntu into XP a lot for various reasons that were necessary, so it took a while) so Adios Agent_24, and am very grateful for your very generously helping me like this. (That "Botched post" thing was where the above writing was actually "placed", but wanted to put a "smilie" on it, so took it to the "Editor" to put the "smilie" in, and then tried to "place" the post again, but it appeared on the page as a long very narrow column of text and looked terrible; so am sticking to the little "Text Panel" at the bottom of the "Post" page to write everything in now). |
Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228680 | 2011-09-22 09:37:00 | Latest development, Agent_24: the Modem arrived today and looks damn good; however Agent_24 there are two "problems" - (1) the Modem phone-jack sockets are for US RJ-11 adapters. Have managed to find on TradeMe someone auctioning a phone-line with a standard British adapter on one end, and a US RJ-11 adapter on the other end. Have left a message asking for a "Buy Now" but there is no way of getting it until late next week anyway, even if he did a "Buy Now", because of the weekend (interbank payment transfer system shuts down) and the snail-paced NZ postal system. Oh well.... The other thing, Agent_24 is that the cable that came with the Modem has got a Male 9-pin serial adapter on one end that goes into the Modem, and it has a Female (9-pin) serial adapter on the other end that goes into the computer. However, there is another short cord (about six inches long, which is very short and strongly suggests by this that it is meant to be plugged into the back of the computer) coming out of the back of the Female adapter, and it has got a very big Female adapter on it that has twenty-five pin-holes in it. There is nowhere in the back of the PC where this can be plugged in, so am extremely worried that the Modem might not work without this big adapter being plugged in. If it has to be, then the quest to get Linux online will go straight down to Davy Jones because that adapter cannot be plugged into my PC. Agent_24, is the cable for your Dial-Up Modem like the one that is being described here? What does the big adapter (if there is one on your cable) plug into? Well that's the developments so far Agent_24, better go hunt on the Web for more information about the Modem. Cheerio Agent_24. |
Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228681 | 2011-09-22 10:50:00 | Really? I thought the phone line plugs would be exactly the same as the ones on your current modem. RJ-11 is as far as I know, used on all dialup modems. You should be able to use the cable which is currently connected to your internal modem. As for the serial cable, don't worry about that. They put both a 9-pin and a 25-pin plug on as there are in fact two different sizes of serial port sockets used on PCs. Typically the new ones use the 9-pin, and the older ones (like a 386!) have the 25-pin sockets. Just plug the 9-pin one into your machine and leave the 25-pin one disconnected :) |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1228682 | 2011-09-22 12:59:00 | Howdy Agent_24, is it ever good to "see" you here again, and thanks very much for your latest Post: Agent_24, no jive but there are two kinds of RJ-11 adapter (have been today frantically researching this stuff on the Web!!!) - there is the one that we are all used to in EnZed, which is the "skinny" opaque, rectangular "milky" white one and is called the "British" adapter; but also there is an American RJ-11 adapter as well, and it is a squat, "stubby" or "blockish" type which seems always to be made of a clear, perspex-like plastic. Have personally encountered these things long ago, but cannot remember what device was involved. Possibly a VCR. There is nothing surprising about this because, after all, the Americans have Gallons, but they are not like the British Gallons, and the American weights and measures are not like the British weights and measures! Incidentally, the Russians, Germans, Scandanavians, and French have never been able to understand why the British and Americans obstinately cling to their bizaare, antiquated systems of weights and measures and do not instead use the otherwise practically universal Metric System. The Modem I have got, Agent_24, cannot accept into it's two phone-line Ports the British/NZ adapters and so gotta get a (hopefully short - have got cables and wires all over the place from the computer) phone-cord with a British/NZ adapter on one end and the American adapter on the other end. This is no problem, as there is exactly what is needed on Trademe - came across it straight away, and it seems to be the only dual British/American cord there. Have put an auto-bid on it. Agent_24, here is a very good Website that shows you Dial-Up telephone cord/line adapters from all of the different countries of the world: http://phone-jack.org/ Thank you Agent_24 for removing what was a merciless crushing weight off my back with the information about that big "extra" plug on the Modem Cable: had been keeping on getting it out of the box, staring at it, and Freaking-Out!!! That plug seemed to be jeering: "LINUX SHIP SUNK!" But she aint sunk, thanks to you Agent_24, and continues to sail determinedly towards an Internet Connection!!! To have Linux Ubuntu online (a truly beautiful OS Agent_24, but heck of a Geeky!!!) is worth any amount of waiting, but having said that, am nearly going "Ape" wanting to get Ubuntu online! Cheers Agent_24 and Muchas Gracias Numero! |
Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228683 | 2011-09-22 13:07:00 | Interesting, but I'm still confused about the modem's plugs, for some reason. All my phone cables, modem cables, etc have the flat white "British" plug on one end (which goes into the wall jack) and the clear square RJ-11 which goes to the phone, modem etc on the other end. I haven't yet seen any that are different, except the ones for use with an ADSL router and ADSL inline filter which have an RJ-11 on both ends. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1228684 | 2011-09-22 20:52:00 | Gooday Agent_24, you have made "The Penny Drop" and (you) have completely solved the impasse: now have remembered finally where that "fat" clear little American-type RJ-11 adapter was seen: it is the adapter that goes into the internal Modem of my PC!!! Had completely forgotten about it, - had not seen it for ages due to the nature of the place where I live, the computer Processing Tower has to be in a position that makes accessing it's back (where is nearly all of the Ports: on the front there are only two USB Ports and nothing else, but have got a big USB Hub that plugs into one of the front USB Ports) a very difficult proposition, and especially with all of the cables that are coming out of it and swathed around it, so have not seen that plug for a hell of a long time, and was trying to remember last night where that one that had been long ago seen, was seen!!! Would not have remembered, so your revelation, Agent_24, has been pivotal, and yet again because of you, Linux Ubuntu is now very close to being online, and am gonna try and get Ubuntu online today, once the cat's cradle of wiring on the PC is sorted out (the External Modem is gonna make the "wiring network" into a tapestry!) Hell's Bells!!! Have put an auto-bid on Trademe for a special cable to try and get round what was earlier seen as being a "roadblock" to progess, and am guaranteed to win the auction!!! What I should be hunting for on TradeMe is an operable brain! Aint gonna Bleat, as will walk the Plank to get Linux online. Much appreciate Agent_24, am preparing now to drag the Tower out, and connect the Modem to it. Thanks Agent_24, might even very soon be able to write here a post using Linux Firefox!!! P.S: Have downloaded and got both the Windows and Linux versions of Clam AV. After writing this am gonna go back to that Website as am pretty sure they have got another Clam utility that "watches" the Registry for suspicious alterations. |
Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228685 | 2011-09-22 22:36:00 | Agent_24, bidding on that phone-line on TradeMe is not so witless after all as badly need it: the computer is an absolute nightmare to try and change over from the PC Internal Modem to the External Serial Modem and vice-versa. With that TradeMe phone-line will not have to haul the Tower out from it's "cubby-hole" (live in a very cramped environment and where the computer is, is the only place it can go, even though it is in a very bad and infernally awkward location if you have to mess around with cables, etc: it is actually on a recessed shelf, and the Monitor can only just squeeze in beside it, leaving no room at all) because have got one of those phone-line "reel" things that goes to the wall-socket, and the "reel" also has sockets in it's side that you can plug more phone lines into. So, with that one from TradeMe, will be able to have it permanently plugged into the PC Internal Modem, and then will be able to switch Modems by plugging either one into the "reel" and maybe both of them could be left plugged into it all the time(?). If they cannot be, no problem anyway. Agent_24, there is a CD ROM with the Modem, but the PC DVD Drive will not read it. It is supposed to have a Manual, Drivers, etc on it. Hope it is not needed because it will not play. Also, Windows "New Hardware" could not recognise the External Modem. Early days, first look at the new landscape. Still a ways to go, but onwards! Salyut! Agent_24. |
Dragonov (16500) | ||
| 1228686 | 2011-09-22 23:04:00 | Yeah, leaving both plugged in and switching at the reel should be just fine. But I wouldn't leave the external modem powered up all the time if you're not using it. You shouldn't need the CD really. You can in fact get the stuff from Cnet's website. At a guess: www.cnet.com.tw for yours. However Windows should be able to use it just fine if you install it as "Standard 56k modem" You will need to do so through the "Phone and modem options" in control panel. Open "Phone and modem options" -> "Modems" tab -> "Add" and either select the driver from Cnet or just choose standard 56k modem. When it asks for the port, it's probably COM1 (Unless the motherboard has been set up otherwise) You could check "ports" under device manager and see what name your serial port is, if you're unsure. This will not be the same port as your internal dialup modem, which will actually use its own virtual serial port. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1228687 | 2011-09-23 00:52:00 | Gooday Agent_24: hey thanks for the further info, as badly need it. So, Agent_24 if I can get that Driver from the CNet website and install it, does that mean the External Modem can be used for both Linux and Windows? Agent_24, went and downloaded that Driver from your Link, and it is a zip folder and has several folders in it for different Windows OS's: when it (the XP folder) is opened, there are the following six files (they all have icons, but for some reason they will not "Copy-And-Paste" here): Intels51 Intels51 IntelS51 Security Catalog Setup Information System File 8kb 124 kilobytes 655kb MDMINT2K migrate.dll VSSVER.SCC Setup Information SCC File 14kb 1kb Agent_24, I don't know which one is the Driver! Also, do not want to add any more complexity to this, but had a "dabble" in the "Phone and Modem Options" and ended up in the "Add Hardware Wizard". So decided to see what would happen if I switched the External Modem on. It led to being prompted to put the CNet CD in the DVD Drive, and did this, and ended up being asked to select the Modem from a list as follows: Intel V92 External [MD5660] Modem Intel V92 PCMCIA [MD5661] Modem Agent_24, have absolutely no idea which one is my one: there are no such codes anywhere on the Modem itself, or the "official" CNet box that it came in (there is a lot of writing underneath the box (!!!) but no such code; or in the rudimentary "handbook". This is as far as I have got Agent_24: do not want to do anything wrong so am here trying to show you what I am seeing. Thanks Agent_24, what would you advise as the best course of action? Cheers! |
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