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Thread ID: 118150 2011-05-21 11:03:00 Jailing Addicts Twelvevolts (5457) PC World Chat
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1204122 2011-05-22 05:00:00 I agree, and in fact that is what they did in Portugal 10 years ago and it works well.

www.cocaineresearch.org


Portugal 10 years ago completely decriminalized all drugs. Turns out drug-use rates are down all across the board. Crime is down too.

Portugal’s move was decried by other countries at the time. They were told it would never work and crime would shoot through the roof. The exact opposite happened
I think you need to go back and read that link you posted as drugs are still illegal in Portugal just being caught has different results.
mikebartnz (21)
1204123 2011-05-22 05:32:00 There is fairly clear evidence that free availability of drugs doesn't cause rampant addiction, indeed making drugs illegal appears to cause many more problems than it solves.

Just look at tobacco, and that **** doesn't even give you a buzz, never mind make you feel like the king of the world for an hour.

The reason tobacco use is widespread is because its legal, cheap, readily available and addictive.

You want to apply that same marketing to P, cocaine,heroin?, crap that has a far superior short term gain, is more addictive and burns people from the instant they start?

Excellent plan.

On that same note the only reason people find tobacco hard to quit is because its readily available, How are your paranoid delusional crackheads going to be when they can just pop down the dairy while on a 5 day bender and buy a point as easy as a pack of tobacco.
Metla (12)
1204124 2011-05-22 05:46:00 Just look at tobacco, and that **** doesn't even give you a buzz, never mind make you feel like the king of the world for an hour.

The reason tobacco use is widespread is because its legal, cheap, readily available and addictive.

You want to apply that same marketing to P, cocaine,heroin?, crap that has a far superior short term gain, is more addictive and burns people from the instant they start?

Excellent plan.

On that same note the only reason people find tobacco hard to quit is because its readily available, How are your paranoid delusional crackheads going to be when they can just pop down the dairy while on a 5 day bender and buy a point as easy as a pack of tobacco.

Never used tobacco myself so not sure of its attraction. However it is clear that compared to putting smokers in prison. making it legal is not having too much of a negative effect on anyone other than the person who chooses to smoke. Sure there used to be a bit of second hand smoke but these days even that doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1204125 2011-05-22 05:51:00 Don't mention secondary smoking or some rampant little weasel bestraggled with a blue tie will be insisting that incurs secondary tax. R2x1 (4628)
1204126 2011-05-22 05:58:00 Never used tobacco myself so not sure of its attraction. However it is clear that compared to putting smokers in prison. making it legal is not having too much of a negative effect on anyone other than the person who chooses to smoke. Sure there used to be a bit of second hand smoke but these days even that doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

Tobacco doesn't fry your brain.

But imagine if all the smokers in NZ were addicted to P....

What then?....hide all the machetes?
Metla (12)
1204127 2011-05-22 07:00:00 Never used tobacco myself so not sure of its attraction. However it is clear that compared to putting smokers in prison. making it legal is not having too much of a negative effect on anyone other than the person who chooses to smoke. Sure there used to be a bit of second hand smoke but these days even that doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
But making P legal has totally different ramifications because as I stated earlier some drugs create a schizophrenic state in users. Take the guy a number of years ago who ran amok with a sumaru sword.
mikebartnz (21)
1204128 2011-05-22 07:10:00 It seems that Twelvevolts does not want people in prison for some reason.

So let's make everything legal including murder and then no one will have to go to prison.

Problem solved.
Snorkbox (15764)
1204129 2011-05-22 07:16:00 Tobacco doesn't fry your brain.
Neither does anything else, when used in a sensible fashion. The majority of people who use 'illegal' drugs are not addicts, and turning otherwise productive members of society into criminals for their choice of recreational substances is counterproductive.


But imagine if all the smokers in NZ were addicted to P....

What then?....hide all the machetes?
You can imagine whatever you like, clearly your imagination has little to do with reality.
fred_fish (15241)
1204130 2011-05-22 07:28:00 Laughable if it wasn't so tragic. That maybe the stupidest comment I have ever read.

Delusion is a powerful state of mind.

Anyhow, enough retarded dribble.
Metla (12)
1204131 2011-05-22 07:32:00 I think you need to go back and read that link you posted as drugs are still illegal in Portugal just being caught has different results.

I never said they were legal there, just that it goes with what Twelvevolts said:

What is the logic behind jailing drug addicts, surely they need medical attention not a jail sentence.

And, it would appear that it works...
Agent_24 (57)
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