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Thread ID: 118567 2011-06-11 11:09:00 New Zealand Oil Bladez (16417) PC World Chat
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1208400 2011-06-12 11:41:00 Edit: check out this new engine en.wikipedia.org
Did you check out that link I gave in Post #14 Sounds similar.
mikebartnz (21)
1208401 2011-06-12 11:43:00 Amazing to think that the reciprocating motor has not bee surpassed, not even by the Wankel,being as it rotates I would have thought it would have been more efficient.
Mazda never really got any further with their rotary.
mikebartnz (21)
1208402 2011-06-12 11:49:00 Mazda never really got any further with their rotary.

Thet did win Le Mans with it and as a result, the banning of rotary engines.

So thats not too bad.
Cicero (40)
1208403 2011-06-12 11:58:00 Did you check out that link I gave in Post #14 Sounds similar.

I suspect we won't hear of that again.

Always beware of things that will be coming to fruition in 5 years or so.
Cicero (40)
1208404 2011-06-12 12:07:00 I suspect we won't hear of that again.

Always beware of things that will be coming to fruition in 5 years or so.
When I read the first line I thought you were meaning the oil Co's would buy it out and shut it down so they could make more money out of every thing.:D
mikebartnz (21)
1208405 2011-06-12 23:46:00 The links given by Mikebartnz: "Breakthrough Material Purifies Water While Generating Electricity", www.innovationnewsdaily.com

and Winstons "Magnesium injection cycle" en.wikipedia.org

both smack of perpetual motion nonsense, as they seem to suggest something for nothing.

The aluminium article contains nonsense. Aluminium as a pure metal does not exist in nature as the article tries to imply. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to extract.

The article says 2.2 lb of the alloy provides 12.9 kWh of energy when exposed to water, ie 5.9kWh per pound of alloy, and then on top of that, the aluminium has to be heated and melted to form the special alloy.

However it takes 5.9 to 6.4 kWh of electricity to produce 1 lb of aluminium from bauxite:
www.eia.gov

So the article is manifest nonsense if it claims it has found a source of energy to "solve the world's energy crisis"

The magnesium injection article has similar problems of credulity.

The energy required to re-constitute the magnesium oxide back into pure magnesium will be more than the energy released by the magnesium in the first place.
If solar energy is used for this process, then the solar energy could possibly be used more directly instead of going through this convoluted chemo/mechanical loop.

It may however be considered to be a more convenient utilisation of solar power, in as much as very large stationary solar plants could be used to process the magnesium oxide
Terry Porritt (14)
1208406 2011-06-13 00:54:00 Could you not use the hot air that is put into the atmosphere by all of the worlds politicians? What a novel way of power your steam car that would be, hook up a politician to the boiler instead of a firebox :devil gary67 (56)
1208407 2011-06-13 01:15:00 The article says 2.2 lb of the alloy provides 12.9 kWh of energy when exposed to water, ie 5.9kWh per pound of alloy, and then on top of that, the aluminium has to be heated and melted to form the special alloy.

However it takes 5.9 to 6.4 kWh of electricity to produce 1 lb of aluminium from bauxite:
www.eia.gov
If they made beer cans out of the alloy then you could suck on a can and when finished throw it in.;):D:D
mikebartnz (21)
1208408 2011-06-13 02:45:00 We should all start buying "Smart Cars" pity they are so expensive Gobe1 (6290)
1208409 2011-06-13 03:06:00 We should all start buying "Smart Cars" pity they are so expensive

and use heaps of oil in their construction processes
gary67 (56)
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