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Thread ID: 121001 2011-10-07 04:39:00 WindowsXP(SP2): Slow startup mdRASHIDkhi (16580) Press F1
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1235861 2011-10-08 22:56:00 I had a similar problem a few months ago. Checked umpteen threads on forums and did all sorts of manual registry editing & faffing about. None worked.

Then I checked the last updates before the issue - the problem started after an IE 8 update. I started in safe mode, removed IE entirely (although you could just remove the update but I was pissed off) & problem solved. (BTW restore didn't work either).

You can use maxthon to do MS updates.

Still no idea why, possibly just a random AMD/win xp issue with that particular update.

I have linux installed so was able to eliminate a hardware issue immediately.

I don't know if this is the same issue you have, but before doing anything drastic it is a simple thing you can check first.
mmmork (6822)
1235862 2011-10-08 22:58:00 Its only got IE 6 on it. So I dont think you can remove it completely Speedy Gonzales (78)
1235863 2011-10-09 20:48:00 Looks like the cause may have been the chipset drivers (they weren't installed, after XP had been installed). I found the install file on the HP site installed / rebooted the PIO mode entry changed to DMA 3. Told the OP to install SP3 and update XP. And use defraggler. Since it sounds like its still slow. But its probably faster than before (when it was running in PIO mode). Altho there's less than 1 GB of ram on it. So, more ram would help as well Speedy Gonzales (78)
1235864 2011-10-09 21:37:00 That PIO mode problem used to be a right bugger to fix, but usually only happened to Optical drives. Easiest way was to just delete the entry from device manager and let it reinstall on boot up which usually worked.

I note several posts back the OP mentioned Avast scheduled to run on boot up and someone else commenting this could be the issue. I'd agree it could be contributing. Also I see no indication that any anti-malware was tried as suggested, it seems some good advice has not been acted on.

I would suggest;

1. If still not fixed try and sort the PIO mode issue
2. Run malware bytes as suggested - virus scanners do not do the same job
3. Disable any bootup antivirus scans, at least temporarily to see if that's the culprit (again already suggested)
4. Possibly get rid of Avast and use microsoft security essentials instead, generally regarded as better and still free.
5. Post the startup list from CCleaner as suggested so we can advise what to disable
6. Go through the add remove programs list and uninstall any software you no longer use.

What happens regarding the DMA / PIO mode thing is roughly this; On setup the fastest DMA mode available should be chosen automatically by windows. Any read errors on the controller are logged and recorded in the registry, if they exceed what windows considers acceptable the mode will be set down a slower one to try and reduce read errors. The slowest mode possible is PIO and it really does crawl, usually optical drives ended up in this mode as a result of a scratched or dirty disk which is a design flaw in the software in my opinion. Sata drives and windows 7 seem to have eliminated this issue.
dugimodo (138)
1235865 2011-10-09 21:46:00 The PIO mode prob, has been fixed, it changed to DMA 3. So thats not the cause of the slowness now (if its still slow). It maybe lack of ram. I've already deleted whatever in startup with ccleaner. I was in the computer last night Speedy Gonzales (78)
1235866 2011-10-09 22:05:00 Thank you all for your suggestions! I've finally decided to format the disk and install WindowsXP again. I am working on saving the data in DVDs and then I'll do that tomorrow. Please keep a few things in mind (for those who'll read this thread to solve similar problem):
1. I didn't face this problem of slow boot up in 2 months after I had installed WindowsXP myself. So, I guess there shouldn't be any hardware problem.
2. I found avast! a reliable antivirus program, which neither slowed down my computer nor caused this slow boot up problem during 2 months.
3. I found CCleaner much easier to use than Advanced SystemCare, but I've used the second one for quite some time and it really changed the performance of my system for the better on running a thorough scan and also defragmentation. (This operation is called Deep Care, not available in CCleaner.)
4. Only slow boot up is the problem. Otherwise I didn't have any complaint about the speed of the system after it once had started. Welcome screen appears for 30 seconds (much slower than normal); Desktop appears for 2 minutes and no taskbar and icons show up. Previously it was much much less than this. So, let me see what happens if I install WindowsXP again this time. But I've decided to run defragmentation once at least to try this last option before clean installation again.

Thank you all! I'll post the result here. :)
mdRASHIDkhi (16580)
1235867 2011-10-09 22:09:00 I wouldnt bother saving programs you've installed onto DVD. They wont work after. Download / copy the drivers (if you need any to something else). If you reformat / repartition the hdd Speedy Gonzales (78)
1235868 2011-10-09 23:52:00 Without reading through all the posts as I don't have enough time, did you disable the Avast Boot scan in the end? gary67 (56)
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