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Thread ID: 118778	2011-06-20 15:31:00	Parallels?	Snorkbox (15764)	PC World Chat

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1210835	2011-06-22 05:57:00	You may, but I shant waste my time. :) OK then.	Snorkbox (15764)
1210836	2011-06-22 06:40:00	Years ago, even the Royal Surgeons worked out that the Royal Family needed to be our-crossed. Enter Prince Phillip. :eek: Some will argue a generation late but that’s another story. :lol: Errr... I am not sure what you are on about sire, but... But the Prince Consort is, like the queen, descended from Queen Victoria; look at princess Eugene and see what happened there.	Cato (6936)
1210837	2011-06-22 07:10:00	@ B.M. May I ask what you are on about? What he is on about is the urinary habits of a monk named Gregor Mendel, the 'father' of modern genetics. However I think he cross-bred and studied peas rather than studying the logical output from the consumption of the monastery wine.... :devil :banana	johcar (6283)
1210838	2011-06-22 07:20:00	What he is on about is the urinary habits of a monk named Gregor Mendel, the 'father' of modern genetics. However I think he cross-bred and studied peas rather than studying the logical output from the consumption of the monastery wine.... :devil :banana But it's totally nothing to do with the off topic topic! Goes off to have some Benedictine. :) Well I would if I had any.	Snorkbox (15764)
1210839	2011-06-22 07:57:00	Culture is much more than just economic activity C . A wanky definition is that culture is the total lifeways of a people . I'm not sure if this makes sense, but the other night on TV a Solomon Islander was being interviewed about the NZ and Australian cops pulling out of the Solomon Islands . He was reluctant to see them go - he said something like 'many of them are Islanders and part Māori, and they understand us' . I think that is what some of this is all about - if you have a significant section of your population that feels alienated and ripped off, and that they are not understood, or their values aren't reflected in the country that used to be theirs, you have a major problem . I have been on marae all over the country, both urban and very rural, and for some years I was often the token whitey in meetings, and from those experiences I can say two things: 1 . I felt really shaky for a long time on marae because the first language was one I didn't speak (except in bits), the rules were no longer rules with which I was familiar, and I always felt I was going to do something wrong . I was never made to feel unwelcome, but for a long time I felt I didn't belong . I was living outside my culture and trying to work out how to live inside another one as an 'outsider' . 2 . Many Māori I met considered that their views and values and ways of thinking and relating were not taken into account or acknowledged in NZ as a whole . I can't and won't try to speak on behalf of Māori any more than I would try to speak on behalf of us, and am only saying the above to respond to your question . I just think that if you had spent the sort of time I have in Māori settings, you wouldn't have needed to ask the question . I'm not trying to be a smartarse - I think your question is a key issue (no pun intended) . Not sure if any of this makes any sense . It is more difficult to explain than to experience . Very well put John, although you being the token whitey would more than likely only be by culture and not colour and that said culture is so diluted now does it still really have any relevance . I'm not saying it doesn't just asking the question	gary67 (56)
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