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Thread ID: 118802	2011-06-21 11:41:00	Why NZ industry can't compete	tutaenui (1724)	PC World Chat

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1211009	2011-06-23 08:41:00	New Zealand needs to stick to what we are good at. We have had and still do have car assembly plants here. It is easier and perhaps cheaper to import the parts and assemble them here for the local market. I cannot see NZ ever manufacturing cars for export mainly because of our remote location. We are good at producing agricultural products. I can see the possibility of increased automation in our dairy factories and meat works.	Bobh (5192)
1211010	2011-06-23 09:16:00	Seems to have bugger all actual people working in it. Producing bugger all as well. "In 2002, the manufacturer stated the annual capacity of the new Phaeton plant at Dresden was 20,000; by September 2006, though, a four-year total of just 25,000 had been built,[6] with production running at approximately 6,000 cars annually."	PaulD (232)
1211011	2011-06-24 00:14:00	Even F&P moved manufacturing offshore. Dreams of NZ manufacturing on anything but small scale are now just dreams	1101 (13337)
1211012	2011-06-24 00:39:00	[QUOTE=Bobh;1027355]New Zealand needs to stick to what we are good at . We have had and still do have car assembly plants here . It is easier and perhaps cheaper to import the parts and assemble them here for the local market . I cannot see NZ ever manufacturing cars for export mainly because of our remote location . When I was we Nisan they assembled a car in NZ with 33 manhours of labour, The Nissan Sagamihara plant, using robotics, assembled the same unit with 9 man hours of labour . ( The trim line, body drop and mechanicals cannot be done by robotics) . The Sagamihara plant had the capacity to manufacture NZ'z entire annual Nissan sales in less than 8 hours . When one factors in the cost of packing components for shipping, the CKD kits landed cost NZ was not dramatically lower than the landed cost before tax of the same model CBU . Unfortunately, that is the economics of the matter . Setting up robotic production lines is an extremely expensive business, and without very high volumes it is not possible to amortise the cost and competitively price the product in the market place . The exporting of jobs in the clothing industry however is another matter, these jobs went to third world sweated labour shops . The cost of the product to the customer did not come down, the profits to the business men involved increased exponentially . Reflect on sales- Smith and Caughy reduce the price of a designer named shirt from $129 . 95 to $39 . 95, - are they or anyone else losing money - are they heck - I don't think so .	KenESmith (6287)
1211013	2011-06-24 02:43:00	Dresden, didnt we flatten the place?	prefect (6291)
1211014	2011-06-24 21:39:00	@Tutaenui Gee thanks for that! I really enjoyed watching that video it was amazing. Not only would that investment here in NZ be out of the question, but the people that dreamed up all of the new concepts have to be very clever. (University of Dresden)	Digby (677)
1211015	2011-06-24 21:43:00	I remember in the early 70's thinking that the NZ car assembly system was a joke. There were about 11 "factories" I think producing about 70,000 cars a year. I worked it out that they assembled 1 car before smoko, one after etc. Then think that in the UK and Japan they were turning out one car every three minutes! Obviously we all accept that NZ with only 4 million people and being miles away from anywhere cannot compete with large manufacturing. But we do do very well in some areas. Eg Yachts, marine fittings, dental and surgical equipment.	Digby (677)
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