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| Thread ID: 118778 | 2011-06-20 15:31:00 | Parallels? | Snorkbox (15764) | PC World Chat |
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| 1210825 | 2011-06-21 05:49:00 | @ Cicero, not the rabid raving from BM - I don't know where it will all end either, but I don't think that denial of Māori reality and Māori culture and language is going to help bring about positive change. And I don’t think pandering to the weaknesses in a crossbreed is going to help either. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1210826 | 2011-06-21 06:38:00 | And I don’t think pandering to the weaknesses in a crossbreed is going to help either. ;) Beware the wrath of Twelvevolts!!! :D |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 1210827 | 2011-06-21 06:44:00 | Beware the wrath of Twelvevolts!!! :D Decimal points Johcar. ;) It’s 00000000.12 volts, roughly, but I’m allowed to exaggerate. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1210828 | 2011-06-21 08:06:00 | BM cross breed dogs have a much stronger gene pool than all of the pure breeds as they are just getting weaker due to inbreeding. Yet wolves and other wild dogs don't suffer from that problem | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1210829 | 2011-06-21 09:00:00 | BM cross breed dogs have a much stronger gene pool than all of the pure breeds as they are just getting weaker due to inbreeding. Yet wolves and other wild dogs don't suffer from that problem Well, you seem to be arguing with yourself gary?? :confused: The “Dog” guys got heavily into “Line Breeding” (Father over Daughter, Brother over Sister etc.) and graced us with a Varity of Leg Lengths, Temperaments and so on. Years ago, even the Royal Surgeons worked out that the Royal Family needed to be our-crossed. Enter Prince Phillip. :eek: Some will argue a generation late but that’s another story. :lol: Anyway, for those interested in breeding, gene pools etc., I would recommend you start with by reading about Gregor Mendel, his pees, and Mendel’s Law. Like Ohms Law, Mendel’s law applies today. Only One in Four of the same crosses breed true. ;) What I think you may be talking about in creating a gene pool by crossing every thing with everything and then admiring the gene pool. This is (was) a “Dog Breeder’s” perspective of a gene pool, but I respectfully suggest you look at a Thoroughbred Horse Breeders take on that method. They carefully breed their stock and as Gregor Mendel found with his pees, carefully outcross for hybrid vigour. But at the end of the day, what I’m saying is if you have everyone shagging everyone you’re going to have problems, so just accept it and deal with it. I can’t see anyone changing it. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1210830 | 2011-06-22 03:51:00 | Not sure what you mean by their culture J, all we ask of ourselves, is that we get up in the morning and go to work, so that we can eat put a roof over our heads, is the part of our cuture too hard?If so, why? | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1210831 | 2011-06-22 04:13:00 | @ B.M. May I ask what you are on about? |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1210832 | 2011-06-22 04:37:00 | @ B.M. May I ask what you are on about? x2 :confused: |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1210833 | 2011-06-22 05:37:00 | Not sure what you mean by their culture J, all we ask of ourselves, is that we get up in the morning and go to work, so that we can eat put a roof over our heads, is the part of our cuture too hard?If so, why? Culture is much more than just economic activity C . A wanky definition is that culture is the total lifeways of a people . I'm not sure if this makes sense, but the other night on TV a Solomon Islander was being interviewed about the NZ and Australian cops pulling out of the Solomon Islands . He was reluctant to see them go - he said something like 'many of them are Islanders and part Māori, and they understand us' . I think that is what some of this is all about - if you have a significant section of your population that feels alienated and ripped off, and that they are not understood, or their values aren't reflected in the country that used to be theirs, you have a major problem . I have been on marae all over the country, both urban and very rural, and for some years I was often the token whitey in meetings, and from those experiences I can say two things: 1 . I felt really shaky for a long time on marae because the first language was one I didn't speak (except in bits), the rules were no longer rules with which I was familiar, and I always felt I was going to do something wrong . I was never made to feel unwelcome, but for a long time I felt I didn't belong . I was living outside my culture and trying to work out how to live inside another one as an 'outsider' . 2 . Many Māori I met considered that their views and values and ways of thinking and relating were not taken into account or acknowledged in NZ as a whole . I can't and won't try to speak on behalf of Māori any more than I would try to speak on behalf of us, and am only saying the above to respond to your question . I just think that if you had spent the sort of time I have in Māori settings, you wouldn't have needed to ask the question . I'm not trying to be a smartarse - I think your question is a key issue (no pun intended) . Not sure if any of this makes any sense . It is more difficult to explain than to experience . |
John H (8) | ||
| 1210834 | 2011-06-22 05:54:00 | @ B.M. May I ask what you are on about? You may, but I shant waste my time. :) |
B.M. (505) | ||
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