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Thread ID: 118969 2011-06-29 03:12:00 Internet Downloading Bill Empathy. (16382) PC World Chat
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1213104 2011-06-29 03:12:00 That bill they passed, about restricting torrents and punishing the caught and what not, any ideas when this bill is coming into play, if it isn't already? Cause I've been hearing many different times, and want to get my facts straight :p Empathy. (16382)
1213105 2011-06-29 03:18:00 You'll need to get PeerGuardian running by September the 1st :P Siobhan Keogh (16063)
1213106 2011-06-29 03:21:00 You'll need to get PeerGuardian running by September the 1st :P

I'll take that as the date? Am I correct? :dogeye:
Empathy. (16382)
1213107 2011-06-29 03:23:00 I'll take that as the date? Am I correct? :dogeye:
That's what she said. :)
Cato (6936)
1213108 2011-06-29 03:26:00 Just double checking.. :p Thanks for the quick help! Empathy. (16382)
1213109 2011-06-29 03:26:00 You'll need to get PeerGuardian running by September the 1st :P

I'm curious, why PeerGuardian in particular??
Cato (6936)
1213110 2011-06-29 04:31:00 Nooooooooooo not PeerGuardian :( Those things provide a false sense of security and it's *useless* for Torrents by nature anyway. Generic P2P using Emule / whatever, then perhaps, but not for torrents, it's 100% pointless... Chilling_Silence (9)
1213111 2011-06-29 05:28:00 Why is it useless, Chill? I haven't used PeerGuardian, I was just using it as an example.

But yes, September the 1st is when the bill becomes active.
Siobhan Keogh (16063)
1213112 2011-06-29 06:08:00 Because of the way that torrents work, just because a leecher / seeder can't actually *connect* to you doesn't mean that they can't see you're also connected to the tracker.

Also, people falsely seem to believe it'll prevent 'poisoned' torrents. Bittorrent has a built-in hashing mechanism that checks to ensure the chunk you've just downloaded is what is expected. If not, it'll try again or go get that chunk from somebody else automatically.

I had a rant about it a while back on some other forums, I'll try and track it down...
Chilling_Silence (9)
1213113 2011-06-29 06:15:00 So have I interpretted the rules correctly - they (copyright holders) have to catch you 3 seperate times BEFORE they contact your ISP, so they can only ID you those 3 times by your IP address.

However, for most of us we get assigned a different IP each time we log in, including an IP that someone else may have been torrenting on the day before.

It then becomes a case of the ISP determining whether or not the same user was d/l via the IP each time, or they are limited to processing only those on static IP's.


Or do the copyright holders have the means to get right down to the MAC address of your hardware and ID your use that way?
Paul.Cov (425)
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