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| Thread ID: 119105 | 2011-07-05 00:29:00 | Dominion of New Zealand | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 1214960 | 2011-07-06 05:24:00 | What could possibly be more meaningful than a bunch of whities stealing a country? :S Cato, we only stole it off people who had already stolen it off the previous owners', who finished up on the Chatham Islands or eaten before they could get away !. Lurking. |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1214961 | 2011-07-06 06:15:00 | Cato, we only stole it off people who had already stolen it off the previous owners', who finished up on the Chatham Islands or eaten before they could get away !. Lurking. With this post, you prove Roscoe's point that we don't know our history. Your comment is one of the myths that abound regarding Māori settlement here. In any event, assuming there was a shred of evidence to support your statement, it is settled law that you cannot get good title to property from someone (e.g. a thief) who does not have good title to pass on to you. The best you can achieve with your statement is that we don't have any right to be here unless we rely upon the Treaty. Prof Brookfield from the University of Auckland convincingly proved that the only legitimacy we have to be here is based on the Treaty agreement. |
John H (8) | ||
| 1214962 | 2011-07-06 06:40:00 | With this post, you prove Roscoe's point that we don't know our history. Your comment is one of the myths that abound regarding Māori settlement here. The great Emperor Napoleon once said "History is a myth that men agree to believe". I agree with that statement, and I also agree with Lurking. Edit: I say thing that are rather un-PC. |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 1214963 | 2011-07-06 06:52:00 | The great Emperor Napoleon once said "History is a myth that men agree to believe". I agree with that statement, and I also agree with Lurking. Edit: I say thing that are rather un-PC. Sounds like a case of.......Never the twin shall meet. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1214964 | 2011-07-06 06:55:00 | Sounds like a case of.......Never the twin shall meet. :lol: |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 1214965 | 2011-07-06 08:38:00 | The signing of the treaty was a fairly long drawn-out process, but the sighing is far from over even yet. And which one did they in fact sign, as there appear to have been a few copies. Your use of the word "sighing" is very appropriate, I sigh every-time valuable assets are given over to the other settlers', originally from aborigine Taiwan. I always wonder why the British accepted the invitation to settle in New Zealand as opposed to America. or was it because of religious persecution !. Lurking. |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1214966 | 2011-07-06 08:58:00 | Perhaps we could agree the The Treaty of Waitangi was a badly worded document in the first place and like any written word(s) it can be interpreted to prove anything you want it to be especially when taken out of context and only certain pieces are quoted. | Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1214967 | 2011-07-06 14:08:00 | The best you can achieve with your statement is that we don't have any right to be here unless we rely upon the Treaty. Prof Brookfield from the University of Auckland convincingly proved that the only legitimacy we have to be here is based on the Treaty agreement. Yeh, I think we do, its known as colonization, its happened all over the world for 1000's of years, its part of history and not just done by the English. Only difference between the Maori and English is that the Maori landed first, they are both settlers from other lands and neither are as such "Native" or indigenous to NZ in my opinion just occupiers of the land and therefore have no more rights than the other. |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1214968 | 2011-07-06 18:46:00 | Seeing as the Head of State is the GG who has no real authority, would the PM's office be willing to relinquish any power to the President? If it's a symbolic position, as I assume it will be, who cares? The GG's position is far from powerless. He or she has the power to sack the government. Just as happened to the Gough regime in Australia. That's the whole point of the position. I'd be all for a republic except for the one big problem. How do we stop the politicians taking control of who gets to be president. When you look at what's happened in the USA over the last 10 years, and the outlook for the next US election, a responsible constitutional monarchy doesn't look so bad. |
Vallis (8886) | ||
| 1214969 | 2011-07-06 20:22:00 | Former isreli president www.reuters.com |
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