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Thread ID: 119105	2011-07-05 00:29:00	Dominion of New Zealand	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1214950	2011-07-05 05:36:00	(snip) But the point I was really trying to make is that there is too much attention paid to America's Independance Day and not enough is made of our own history. It's really pitiful to see acknowlegement of America's history to the detriment of our own. I was hoping to raise awareness of our own history which is much more relavant than America's history. It seems that I might have achieved that to a small degree. Let's hope more people read your comments. Really appreciated. Yes, sorry, I realised after I posted that I had missed acknowledging your main point. Well taken, and I agree with you. I don't know how much Kiwis know about American history, but judging by what goes on in this forum, I am pretty sure that not much is known (or cared about even) regarding NZ history.	John H (8)
1214951	2011-07-05 05:43:00	Quite agree. It certainly would be more meaningful than Waitangi Day which should be renamed Maori Protest Day.:rolleyes: :D	GameJunkie (72)
1214952	2011-07-05 06:41:00	In 1973 Prime Minister Norman Kirk announced that the anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi would be a national holiday called New Zealand Day. The inaugural 1974 day featured a royal entourage, was watched by 20,000 people and screened live for TV. Excerpts include the Aotearoa pageant (from giant moa to the Age of Aquarius, including kapa haka, settler cabaret, and Howard Morrison as Kupe), and Kirk’s iconic — and more enduring — speech. The day’s unifying ambitions were curtailed by the next (National) Government who renamed it Waitangi Day. See here (www.nzonscreen.com). I cannot understand why the National Government changed the name from New Zealand Day to Waitangi Day.	Bobh (5192)
1214953	2011-07-05 07:13:00	In 1973 I cannot understand why the National Government changed the name from New Zealand Day to Waitangi Day. Because the nature of politicians is to think they know better than those that put them there. The old power corrupts thing.	Cicero (40)
1214954	2011-07-05 23:06:00	John H: Thanks for your enlightenment. I too, found it interesting. I agree that we need to know more about our own history. Roscoe: Your comments are very relevant. It is about time we celebrated our own unique brand of history rather than celebrating America's history. I would like to see a day that we celebrated our own birth as a nation and celebrating Dominion Day sounds a very good idea. Some people may argue that we have Waitangi Day as our national day, but that was not the day when we became independent, simply the day we made peace with the natives.	Ulsterman (12815)
1214955	2011-07-05 23:26:00	Actually, being an Ulsterman, perhaps you might accept that Dominion Day didn't make us completely independent - I think that the outcome was more like the arrangement between Ulster and Westminster, in that Westminster could still make laws for us. A dominion is still a dependency within an empire ruled by one country. Once we adopted the Statute of Westminster in 1947 we were free of the legislative power of Westminster, and were independent except for the requirement to get Royal Assent before a Parliamentary bill can become law. I accept that becoming a Dominion was a step up from being a mere colony, and I also accept that celebrating "Dominion Day" would have more of a ring to it than celebrating "Statute of Westminster Day", but my point is that until 1947 we were still doffing the cap to Westminster. PS one side of my family is from County Down - Ballywalter and Ganaway.	John H (8)
1214956	2011-07-05 23:49:00	Way back when I was at school we were taught history . :eek: This included British and American history with a smattering of New Zealand History . It must have been a cloudy day when the Maori first landed in New Zealand . They saw a long white cloud and so named our land Aotearoa . Apparently the North Island was fished out of the sea by a Maori standing at the top of the South Island . Stewart Island was the anchor . Much later after the Pakeha arrived they put a power cable between the North and South Islands . This helped stop the North Island floating away . :rolleyes: So ends our New Zealand History lesson for today . :sleep	Bobh (5192)
1214957	2011-07-06 00:00:00	Thanks for that, John. I think that Roscoe was saying that NZ was upgraded from a colony to a Dominion and became a nation, if not completly self governing, which is what you have said. And speaking of Ulster, it is only semi independent. People in the province consider themselves very British and are happy to be ruled by Westminster, particularly when Westminster pumps millions of British Pounds into the Ulster economy. I have been in NZ since Waitangi Day 1974 and although I still have an Ulster accent, I consider myself a Kiwi and take a great interest in all things New Zealand. P.S. I come from the market town of Limavady, County Londonderry, which is about half an hour east of Londonderry and just up the road from County Down. It seems that there are many people in this country that are Irish or have Irish ancestry.	Ulsterman (12815)
1214958	2011-07-06 00:06:00	Thanks for that, John. I think that Roscoe was saying that NZ was upgraded from a colony to a Dominion and became a nation, if not completly self governing, which is what you have said. And speaking of Ulster, it is only semi independent. People in the province consider themselves very British and are happy to be ruled by Westminster, particularly when Westminster pumps millions of British Pounds into the Ulster economy. I have been in NZ since Waitangi Day 1974 and although I still have an Ulster accent, I consider myself a Kiwi and take a great interest in all things New Zealand. P.S. I come from the market town of Limavady, County Londonderry, which is about half an hour east of Londonderry and just up the road from County Down. It seems that there are many people in this country that are Irish or have Irish ancestry. We try not to hold that against them Ulst:rolleyes:	Cicero (40)
1214959	2011-07-06 00:21:00	We try not to hold that against them Ulst:rolleyes: You're so very kind, Cic.:)	Ulsterman (12815)
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