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Thread ID: 119100	2011-07-04 21:59:00	A terabyte of data?	nedkelly (9059)	PC World Chat

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1214861	2011-07-06 11:59:00	I was looking at internet plans here: www.internetchoice.co.nz Would the speeds listed be in kilobytes per second or kilobits per second? :pf1mobmini:	icow (15313)
1214862	2011-07-06 12:17:00	kbps = kilobits per second b = bits B = bytes Eight bits to a byte, so a measurement in bits is always 8 times bigger than the same thing measured in bytes.	Agent_24 (57)
1214863	2011-07-06 23:17:00	If I was syncing faster than 1.4m/bit right now I could easily hoe through a terrabyte. Streaming video at semi-decent quality is going to be a few m/bit.. What about in the US where there's Google Music, and you stream all your music from 'the cloud' to your device? Take an 8MB MP3, listen to 6 songs @ 3:45 on your 20 minute trip to work, and back again, that's 100MB a day JUST on songs. Totally blows the "$1 a day for 10MB" option outta the water, screw that for a joke. What about the likes of Duke Nukem which has come out, it'll blow most peoples data caps alone, let alone trying to do anything else that month. Watch a 60 second movie trailer online and you blow through 40-50MB easily... It's not so much the speeds of internet I'm worried about, hell I was going 25GB a day at my last place syncing at 4m/bit (Man I could do some damage on a 100m/bit line!) but the caps are whats really going to make or break things. It's not so much about saying "We want to restrict you from doing what a normal home user would" but more a way of saying "You simply can't setup your home connection as a small datacenter"	Chilling_Silence (9)
1214864	2011-07-06 23:31:00	but the caps are whats really going to make or break things. It's not so much about saying "We want to restrict you from doing what a normal home user would" but more a way of saying "You simply can't setup your home connection as a small datacenter" I read recently that they are bringing data caps back in in the USA. I also read recently that there is no real reason for having data caps here and that the Southern Cross cable has plenty of surplus bandwidth.	mikebartnz (21)
1214865	2011-07-06 23:52:00	Will it have plenty of bandwidth if we all have 100\100Mbit fiber optic and no data caps?	Agent_24 (57)
1214866	2011-07-06 23:55:00	Yeah but you know what the data caps are going to be? Around 500GB .... Yes it has plenty of surplus bandwidth but retailers / wholesalers aren't buying enough capacity to handle 'peak' times when everybody is on. There's nothing wrong with oversubscribing, but it's not exactly difficult for an ISP to say "OK we have 10,000 customers and a 1 gigabit international circuit. They're hitting that limit by around 7PM and staying near capacity until 11PM, so we need to buy more to accomodate that peak time". AFAIK data is flat-rate when you purchase from southern-cross? You simply pay-per-m/bit? I'm happy to be educated otherwise though ...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1214867	2011-07-07 00:00:00	Here, T-Mobile US. USD$50 a month gets you unlimited calls, unlimited txt messages & unlimited data: deals.t-mobile.com ...and that's on a Cellphone! Cellular data here is * infinitely* more expensive than fixed-line broadband...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1214868	2011-07-07 00:03:00	Not sure it is unlimited, if you look closely it also says "First 100 MB at up to 4G speeds"	Agent_24 (57)
1214869	2011-07-07 00:06:00	Yes after that you're throttled back to 3G speeds. Still unlimited ... Lets look at fixed-line options: www.att.com No data caps mentioned there either ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1214870	2011-07-07 00:25:00	Will it have plenty of bandwidth if we all have 100\100Mbit fiber optic and no data caps? The guy made the comparison relating to the present with the SCC being like a garden hose compared with a fire hydrant.	mikebartnz (21)
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