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| Thread ID: 119190 | 2011-07-09 23:41:00 | Can someone give me an example of... | icow (15313) | PC World Chat |
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| 1215824 | 2011-07-10 02:40:00 | Are they the work of one man? Don't all governmental policies effect the population? If you are going to draw such a long bow I'd say the policies of the last Government are having the biggest negative effect on the current population. All this borrowing is to pay for all the crap labour "gave" us :waughh: Ok, my bad. Well then, Bill English when he messed with KiwiSaver. That affects me personally. LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1215825 | 2011-07-10 02:45:00 | Ok, my bad. Well then, Bill English when he messed with KiwiSaver. That affects me personally. LL In a positive way? After all the Government is borrowing money to contribute to our "savings" thanks to the labour government. Absolute madness. If Labour ran their household budgets like they ran the government they would be bankrupt, homeless and destitute. If they ran a company in the same way they ran the government then they and all their staff would be broke,homeless and living off those that can actually understand the concept of money. Oh wait, its about you personally. Yay, Go Labour, Booo National, How dare they try and fix this mess. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1215826 | 2011-07-10 02:58:00 | How an Australian grandfather died: Kiwi Bloke persuades friend to go to Wellington Pub after work. Friend meets up with old buddy, not seen for years, persuades buddy to hang out. Pair get lit up and go on ran-tan, Buddy gets home at 2:30am. Wife gets into him for not calling and they argue. Buddy leaves for work in morning , hung-over and angry. Another driver fails to give way to him, and his slow reactions make him lose control. Following driver takes evasive action and just misses child on pedestrian crossing but strikes and seriously injures child's mother. Child's father phones wife's family in Australia. Wife's elderly father has heart attack at news and dies. Ripple: Bloke>friend>buddy>wife>inattentive driver>2nd wife's Father dies: Bloke in NZ want a night at the Pub, next day a man in Australia dies as a direct consequence of that action. Billy |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1215827 | 2011-07-10 03:49:00 | In a positive way? After all the Government is borrowing money to contribute to our "savings" thanks to the labour government . Absolute madness . If Labour ran their household budgets like they ran the government they would be bankrupt, homeless and destitute . If they ran a company in the same way they ran the government then they and all their staff would be broke,homeless and living off those that can actually understand the concept of money . Oh wait, its about you personally . Yay, Go Labour, Booo National, How dare they try and fix this mess . Then explain this . tradingeconomics . com/new-zealand/government-budget" target="_blank">www . tradingeconomics . com The Labour govt . ran surplusses, building services for the people through sensible tax / spending policies . Despite calls for tax to be reduced, the prudence to build a bit of buffer for the future has served NZ very well with the onset of the Global Financial Crisis(tm) . I certainly don't agree with every policy decision they made, however the fiscal management of the government economy is clearly better than the current National shambles . Slashing taxation income and keeping spending high purely to score political points and say "I told you so" in order to justify the wholesale dismantling of our state asset system that will follow a victory at the next election, is irresponsible and to the detriment of future generations . The low tax, every man for himself approach, serves the rich in the short term, and hampers everybody in the long term, via the fragmentation and decline of a co-operative society model . But people generally only see what is put directly in front of them . . . |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1215828 | 2011-07-10 04:32:00 | Its no secret, the world wide economy was growing and thus NZ was in economical good health, Rather then use that period to grow the economy futher the Labour Government just spent all the money on unsustainable crap in order to win elections, when the inevitable happened (world wide recession) the Labour Givernment choose to pretend it hadn't and tried to carry on as before.The cutting of taxes was a promise made to compete with Labours delusion of just giving more to win elections with no consideration to the real world. Now that the money coming in has slowed to a trickle and the money out hasn't (though National are making inroads) we have to go into debt to pay for Labours folly. Going back to running a business, The companies that have survived are the ones that understood that circumstances are always going to change and operated in such a way to sustain themselves through the quiet times. Those that just went into massive debt in the good times folded as soon as the market changed and they could no longer service their loans. In the real world charity must stop somewhere. Robbing Peter to pay Paul must fail at some point. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1215829 | 2011-07-10 04:43:00 | In a positive way? After all the Government is borrowing money to contribute to our "savings" thanks to the labour government . Absolute madness . If Labour ran their household budgets like they ran the government they would be bankrupt, homeless and destitute . If they ran a company in the same way they ran the government then they and all their staff would be broke,homeless and living off those that can actually understand the concept of money . Oh wait, its about you personally . Yay, Go Labour, Booo National, How dare they try and fix this mess . Yes, me and thousands of others . However not in a positive way . I do agree though, that any govt should not be borrowing such amounts of money to fund things they cannot afford . When Labour introduced Kiwisaver many people joined because it seemed like a really good scheme, $1 for every $ up to $1042 per year and Labour said they could afford it . Now that National has cut that back to a maximum of $521 per year it affects all KiwiSavers . At least they didn't cut the amount completely . Not so bad for me as I have only 1 year left to be in the scheme anyway . But it will put some people off joining as it is not quite so attractive for them now . MPs get $2 . 50 for every $1 they put into their retirement scheme . This thread is about how someone's actions affect people downstream, not whether in a good way or a bad way, as I understand it . LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1215830 | 2011-07-10 05:01:00 | National Labour . Now you're veering right off the original question to promote your political views. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1215831 | 2011-07-10 05:05:00 | Yes, me and thousands of others. However not in a positive way. Well, I'm in Kiwisaver, and any moves to reduce the obscene amounts that have to be borrowed is in my eyes a positive move for all of us, even if I personally don't receive quire so much false charity because of it. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1215832 | 2011-07-10 06:17:00 | A screaming hot vindaloo can have a ripple/flow on effect, affecting many people along the way!! :thumbs: (Note the correct use of "effect" and "affect" - signed The Grammar Police :D) | tuiruru (12277) | ||
| 1215833 | 2011-07-10 08:30:00 | Can someone give me an example of one persons actions massively affecting someone else through the ripple or flow on affect. Thanks in advance. One I know of is one person not paying their bill hence forcing the person expecting that money being forced to lay off his worker and almost forcing him into bankruptcy. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
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