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| Thread ID: 119419 | 2011-07-22 05:14:00 | Another genius Judge | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1218360 | 2011-07-22 05:14:00 | Another genius Judge fines the Ratepayers for digging up some old Pipi shells. :rolleyes: What a load of hogwash! :mad: Here (www.sunlive.co.nz) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1218361 | 2011-07-22 07:22:00 | Unbelievable isn't it. All around the country we have shell middens eroding into the sea, and nobody gives a damn about them. But run a bulldozer over one and it's a big fine. Gotta remember, these were rubbish pits. If their contents are so precious to historians and archaeologists then they need to pull finger and start excavating the thousands of these unsightly brittle pits that are scattered all around the coast. They'd actually beautify the coast somewhat if they were to remove these untidy dumps in the process. I've always found them to be an eyesore, and would prefer to see them buried. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1218362 | 2011-07-22 07:47:00 | that's bull**** | GameJunkie (72) | ||
| 1218363 | 2011-07-22 09:57:00 | What is more important the road or a bit of ancient Maori rubbish. | Bobh (5192) | ||
| 1218364 | 2011-07-22 21:20:00 | What is more important the road or a bit of ancient Maori rubbish. While PC rules, maori rubbish. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1218365 | 2011-07-23 02:26:00 | I can sort of see the sensibility of not disturbing these sites, with a BIG CAVEAT, until they have been examined. Only for the reason there may be other archaeological articles of interest in the dump. If any such sites are subject to erosion then the HPT needs to pull finger and either protect, preserve or examine the site before nature does what man eventually will and any items of interest are lost. But fined for damaging some discarded and already damaged shells seems a bit uptight. Would that apply to any person walking on a midden who further damages these discard shells? One aspect I disagree with is the claim there are hundreds of unrecorded historical sites. If they are unrecorded, how do they know there are hundreds of them? Why not tens or thousands? Hundreds seems pretty specific if it is unrecorded.....it sounds to me like someone has made that up. If an unknown site is on private property and is unrecorded by the HPT, and is later unintentionally damaged with Council consent, then it seems those involved can also be fined if the HPT were to find out. Reductio ad absurdum : let's say I am digging in my garden and unearth (and break) a pre-1900 artefact (e.g. a flint, a bottle, a bone etc.). Is my garden now an unrecorded archaeological site? Can I be fined for damaging the artefact and disturbing the site? |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 1218366 | 2011-07-23 05:02:00 | Many moons ago, (30+ years) a mate of mine was doing a sewer connection at a house which entailed some hand digging because of space restrictions. Blow me down if he didn’t unearth a skeleton. :eek: Ohhhh, what to do. Anyway, he got hold of the owner who requested it be kept a secret because of all the “BS”. Yep, even 30+ years ago the PC brigade was making waves. So, what’s he do? Well he digs the skeleton up, sits it up and makes it comfortable in a mound of earth beside the trench, lays the pipes, scares the daylights out of the Council Inspector that came to inspect his work and puts the skeleton back where it came from. All in a days work. :D Clearly the skeleton was very old and probably that of a victim of the Maori Wars which took place in the area. If everything had been done to today’s PC specifications there would probably still have been a Tapu on the poor guy’s property. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1218367 | 2011-07-24 23:08:00 | Great story and outcome! Thanks for sharing. | andrew93 (249) | ||
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