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Thread ID: 119784 2011-08-09 23:30:00 Looking for a word to an observation victorcharlie (442) PC World Chat
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1222130 2011-08-09 23:30:00 Each country has 1 top job, the prime minister or president
Each year the population grows
So as each year progresses your chances of becoming president decreases.

Its the same for profession sport, especially for playing for your country.

Reason why I ask: I think big companies have this effect on the workforce aswell.
victorcharlie (442)
1222131 2011-08-09 23:33:00 The odds get higher the more people there are, so if 50 people want to be President then it is 50-1.

Increase the population to 100 and it becomes 100-1
gary67 (56)
1222132 2011-08-10 22:04:00 Relevant education, skills, aptitude and ambition will increase one's chances of
moving up the chain of command, so as to be a part of a smaller group.
Not all of the base numbers will want to be a big Razoo
Whenu (9358)
1222133 2011-08-10 22:32:00 So as each year progresses your chances of becoming president decreases.

Its the same for profession sport, especially for playing for your country.


Well it's not the lottery. You have to have the relevant skills/experience whatever o apply in the first place. That eliminates mot of the population straight away.
pctek (84)
1222134 2011-08-11 00:52:00 You can forget skills, experience, aptitude or that fashionable-but-now-means-nothing-term; qualifications.
It only takes money, preferably someone else's, but your own will do in a pinch. Oh, and an unhealthily large serving of greed.
R2x1 (4628)
1222135 2011-08-11 01:29:00 But is there a word for this type of effect, and is it possible that less jobs are creating because of it?

if telecom splits into 2 or 3, this would create more jobs and more bussiness for other companies than telecom as one whole.
victorcharlie (442)
1222136 2011-08-11 01:29:00 You can forget skills, experience, aptitude or that fashionable-but-now-means-nothing-term; qualifications.
It only takes money, preferably someone else's, but your own will do in a pinch. Oh, and an unhealthily large serving of greed.

And lest we forget, the lack of empathy...
Cato (6936)
1222137 2011-08-11 01:43:00 Each country has 1 top job, the prime minister or president
Each year the population grows
So as each year progresses your chances of becoming president decreases.

Its the same for profession sport, especially for playing for your country.

Reason why I ask: I think big companies have this effect on the workforce aswell.

I think your argument in relation to companies may not be valid.

I have worked for both large (200,000 plus employees) and small (12 employees).

A large company will have many departments, hence many departmental heads, managers, section heads, foremen and so on.

There is far more opportunity to "get on" in a large company than in a small one.
It is also true one may encounter more people who have risen to positions of incompetence........The Peter Principal....:)

en.wikipedia.org

As for a large company subdividing like Telecom, the total number of workers will stay more or less the same , but there is now great scope for appointing more CEOs and directors....... :clap
Terry Porritt (14)
1222138 2011-08-11 01:57:00 As the population gets larger there is more competition for you to gain the top job. You can have all the aptitude, talent, education and experience for the job but people around you usually need to want you to be in the top job. Bobh (5192)
1222139 2011-08-11 02:27:00 The odds get higher the more people there are, so if 50 people want to be President then it is 50-1 .

Increase the population to 100 and it becomes 100-1

I don't think the statistics are that simple at all . Only a very small percentage of the population would wish to lead a country, so that is the baseline you have to start with, and except for wild-card entries by "personalities" fundamentally the contenders will come from the pool of established politicians .

You can't run odds on a horse race based on how many horses there are in the country, not even all the racehorses .

When the vast majority of the population are neither interested nor qualified, the odds should be calculated based on the number of candidates adjudged to have the will, the wit, and the wisdom to do the job .

Then, of course, we can all rush of to the polls and vote some other prat in on the basis of the colour of the rosette he or she wears, so go figure .

It would be great if we could elect the PM ourselves instead of letting a load of sycophants push somebody forward on the end of a sharp stick in the hope they'll get a cushy number out of it .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
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