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1463521 2019-09-06 08:00:00 wainuitech
hi.....Success! Macrium disk image of the MP300 is open and usable in VM ware. Now what does that tell us about the 'fault' with the MP300? Or is it the OS on it.
I could use the Op Sys that was available in VM ware. Said my password was wrong 3 times, then after a 'time out' and it restarted I signed in with the 'wrong' password :D
Cheers...where do I go from here? :D
kioti (17360)
1463522 2019-09-06 09:23:00 Finally some good news - ( the OS usable even if in a VM)

The next step - Well could be a bit hit and miss. At least with the Image created by macium, you have a backup now. Keep it in a safe place.

On the one That I have (and this is where the hit and miss comes in) The Image like yours works, when I dropped mine back onto another drive I had the no boot option message, BUT cant find in the motherboard as to where the boot menu is, its really hidden well. SO what I did was do a clone ( not image) to another drive, it hesitated a bit then finally actually booted. NOW got the same password not valid message, no problems tomorrow I'll boot from a CD I have and simply remove the password. THEN comes the interesting part - fixing the rest of the system.

Its ONLY a suggestion, if you have a spare drive, see if you can clone the M.2 to another drive OR drop the image onto another drive -- its a bit of a case of suck it and see.

Afraid at the moment cant advise anything else as I simply dont know. ( welcome to the world of Tech's fixing things, somethings work some dont - finding a workable answer) ;)

I think it was 1101 that said, it will be something small / minor - its finding WHAT that "something" is. These things can drive a person crazy- and as SWMBO says - Bloody short drive. :wub :lol:

Maybe if we all put our heads together here it can be sorted. May be a case of lets get it working first and worry about the Original m.2 drive later. The Question I guess is WHY wont the original partitions delete - they should.
wainuitech (129)
1463523 2019-09-06 09:49:00 wainuitech
hi...........yeah why won't the the original partitions delete. That can be put aside for now.
The macrium image is well saved in external HDD. I will make a copy of it and save it to another external HDD.
I was going to ask about dropping the macrium image onto another drive. I do have a 600GB Sata HDD (2.5")... wondering if the macrium image of an NVMe M.2 SSD will work if installed to a Sata HDD becaus e of the different partition structures. I can give it a suck and see what its made of I guess.
Now I tell ya something that silly bollix here did :D
When I was creating the bootable winpe usb of easeus partition master to boot into and try to get it to delete the M.2 MP300.... well I had the Intel M2 installed but was running the Easeus creating the winpe in W10 on the Samsung Evo 860 SSD...... all good. Then I had the brainwave to try to delete the M.2 MP300 and used easeus in the open windows to format the M'2 drive...it was done in a flash! yeah it sure was and it was in that 2 seconds of wipe drive I realised that I had missed the important step of shutting down, removing the Intel M2 SSD and putting in the MP300.
Yep :( and on reboot the Samsung wouldn't boot to windows, the now installed MP300 was a no go for sure, so I had to connect a 160GB Sata HDD with W10 on it and set about wiping the INtel completely because attempts I had made at Partition Recovery were useless, kept reproducing the 1.8MB efi partitions..... I now happily have the W10 v1903 installed to the Intel SSD and am using it at the moment...installing AV etc etc.
Yep, just one moments lapse of concentration and I jumped two steps ahead and very many backwards.
Tomorrow I will connect the 500GB Sata (its unallocated and in its box still) and see if I can get the macrium image cloned to it.
I was over the moon when I saw that MP300 open to Windows in the VM. I thought at last! A positive outcome so there is hope still.
cheers
garry
kioti (17360)
1463524 2019-09-06 16:19:00 I couldn't resist the having to know if the macrium image would boot open into windows if it was installed to a hard drive. So I took what I wanted from the Samsung Evo860 SSD, deleted all partitions on it and set macrium to instal the image from the MP300 to it. On completion of the instal to the Samsung, I set to boot into the drive and it did so with out any problem at all I am glad to say. :banana:
Whatever the issue is with the MP300 not booting or allowing any alterations / formatting is something I will have to think about...and perhaps returning the drive to the Com Lounge explaing all that I know about it and what has been attempted to get some respmse from the drive and see what they have to offer on the matter. Until then, I leave all as it is.
Here are a few pics showing the process of 'cloning' the image to the Samsung and a few pics of it up and running.
kioti (17360)
1463525 2019-09-06 16:28:00 Some more pics :D and goodnight with many thanks to all :D kioti (17360)
1463526 2019-09-07 06:29:00 Good its kind of sorted ;)

I say kind of because even though you now have a working system, if like me you would still want to sort out the M.2 Drive (as in find out why it did what it has).

ALSO one other thing you now know that you may not or may have thought about - At least with Macrium the backup worked. That why on all the computers now, I have Macrium do a full backup every Friday evening and every other night they do a differential all stored on a Separate Computer. The workshop PC regularly gets "tested" for various reasons.
wainuitech (129)
1463527 2019-09-07 08:26:00 Good its kind of sorted ;)

I say kind of because even though you now have a working system, if like me you would still want to sort out the M.2 Drive (as in find out why it did what it has).

ALSO one other thing you now know that you may not or may have thought about - At least with Macrium the backup worked. That why on all the computers now, I have Macrium do a full backup every Friday evening and every other night they do a differential all stored on a Separate Computer. The workshop PC regularly gets "tested" for various reasons.

wainuitech
hi. Yep is good to have it back again. Familiarity. I am still curious as to what caused the problem and am just now going into Event Viewer to look back on Events at the time the freeze and BSOD happened. Might shed some light on the causes. I will look for any Log file in CBS etc,. As I now have the Op system running I can access these things.
Yep Macrium did a grand job. I am very pleased with it. I will do a new Backup of the C Drive and look into setting up incremental backup. Getting Space to save backup onto any of the External HDD's I have will be a bit difficult but I could spend some time deleting doubled up files/programs etc on them ...from the 12TB-13TB Storage space I have available I reckon I could free 1TB to 2TB space. I do have an unused 2.5" Seagate 1TB Sata 3 HDD in a NexStar RX enclosure I could use solely for backups. I will connect it later in day and do a Macrium backup to be starting with. Disconnecting / reconnecting it when required to back up incrementally.
I had never used Virtual Device before but had an inkling about it's use. To get VI working I had to get into Turn on Windows Features, Hyper-V, download necessary files for Hyper-V Management, then as the the Hyper-V Platform was greyed out and I couldn't download the required files, I booted into BIOS, found where Hyper-V was and enabled it. Then back to download /install necessary files for 'Platform' and set sails for home immediately.
Also, I disabled Fast Boot while I was in BIOS.
Hype-V is not set up/enabled in the system I have now running so I will get that sorted asap. It may be enabled in BIOS but not in this restored W10 OS in use now.
I knew there would be the unallocated space on the Samsung SSD when the restored System was installed to it. the mrimg was of a 240GB SDD source and the recipient drive a 500GB and only the 240GB Drive was imaged.
Has me curious as to why the MP300 wouldn't allow access/alteration because "another process is using it" yet that didn't get included in the Macrium backup .img. I have been considering that when the freeze/BSOD occurred, the processes/a process at work with Vidcoder or VLC has somehow gotten 'locked' into the MP300's Non volitile Memory. IF that is the case then why was it not captured in the Backup??? Just a thought :D.
Ok, I am off to do some Event Viewer and Logfile hunting.... I am also going to put the MP300 SSD back into computer sometime in near future, and try to clear/delete/format it, so I can get pics of the reasons it gives for not allowing the requested actions to take place.
cheers
garry
kioti (17360)
1463528 2019-09-07 09:15:00 You seem to have missed Wainui's post recently re Sandbox it was -- Re: W10 feature updates? Friend or Foe?


'Most malware is self inflicted
Ain't that the truth

Windows doesn't just do updates (security) it also adds in new features, some are not very well known, some are really useful.

One they have added in recently is Sandbox ( use it a lot). You can try out programs and if it all turns to the brown stuff Big deal, so what, simply close the window and no harm done as it doesn't touch the Main OS, you can use it like the standard OS , No need to install separate VM programs, setting up etc."

Read this ……… www.windowscentral.com
Bryan (147)
1463529 2019-09-07 10:06:00 Adding to Bryan's post -- Sandbox is good for testing programs, but keep in mind its not permanent, when you close off sandbox EVERYTHING you have done, installed etc in using it is gone !!

It's a Temporary VM.
wainuitech (129)
1463530 2019-09-07 10:32:00 Bryan
hi. Yep I missed the post of wainuitech's re:Sandbox. I will check in Turn Windows Features on/off shortly and see if it is there and I can get it turned on. I have used Sandbox years back in about 2008/9. It wsa an app called "Sandboxie" and I thought it a great app to be using to COA (Cover one's a@#). I would plug Sandboxie to people in FB who were asking advice on Virus or having been hacked. Best prevention is to run Browser in a Sandbox.
Thanks for the info. I have just watched a video about Windows Sandbox and how to use it. At this link www.pcworld.com
all good stuff
cheers.
kioti (17360)
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