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Thread ID: 119861	2011-08-13 20:53:00	Supermarkets are putting 800 per cent mark-ups on some fresh fruit and vegetables	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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1223029	2011-08-14 09:13:00	No I saw your post #40 and thought it was off the point. So what are you suggesting as a remedy, people are forced to open shops in country towns so they can lose their money? Why don't you do it yourself if you think it is such a fine idea. Well all I can say is you have a comprehension problem because you had a go at zqwerty and my post #40 gave a very good reason as to why it wasn't complete nonsense. Yet another straw man argument to suggest I think people should open shops in small towns to loose money.	mikebartnz (21)
1223030	2011-08-14 09:14:00	All the rear of sections should be set aside to produce something. What amazes me are the number of people that are unemployed that have no garden and all the time in the world to work one. Landlords usually don't appreciate their tenants planting a garden. Fresh fruit in Invercargill is terrible - All the good fruit goes to New World South City & everyone else gets the over/under ripe fruit. I usually buy from Pack N Save because of convenience, but sometimes I go down to South City in order to get some decent food.	Greven (91)
1223031	2011-08-14 09:21:00	Prices are going through the roof. Biscuits that used to be around $2 are now selling for $3 for example. That is quite a lot for a biscuit !	Digby (677)
1223032	2011-08-14 09:50:00	Landlords usually don't appreciate their tenants planting a garden. Fresh fruit in Invercargill is terrible - All the good fruit goes to New World South City & everyone else gets the over/under ripe fruit. I usually buy from Pack N Save because of convenience, but sometimes I go down to South City in order to get some decent food. Having seen some rented places I'm sure most landlords would have no problem with someone with the initiative to start a vege garden.	mikebartnz (21)
1223033	2011-08-14 10:17:00	"Yep it's called supply and demand - are they supposed to drop their prices and lose money? " You mean, lose what I was taught at University economics is known as 'super-profits', these rip-off artists are not getting say, cost plus 30% they are price gouging and the government should be regulating them, fat chance with this friends of the businessmans' National Party (capitalized only for clarity should be in sub-text).	zqwerty (97)
1223034	2011-08-14 10:22:00	"That is quite a lot for a biscuit !" Ok, it should be obvious I mean a packet of biscuits in this case Mallow Puffs, my personal favorites, which I now will no longer be buying and will boycott as long as this price gouging is maintained. This is what all consumers should do, buy only the basics until prices are dropped or go without them forever, we need to get militant with the rip-off corporations as long as we continue to play the game they will just keep increasing prices.	zqwerty (97)
1223035	2011-08-14 11:17:00	I'm going to assume you are an inbred hillbilly, as anything else would be offensive to mankind. You very kindly removed the next 2 sentences, one of which said: "We couldn't freeze or can the excess production?" And you then un-eloquently put forward the same argument I did in that post and a later one. I suggest you read the thread and posts properly, and understand the context, before going off half-cocked. I'm going to assume you are a city boy, as anything else might get me banned. You want to buy a pumkin now - or potatoes or apples. Do you think the growers can just go and pick them fresh today for you to buy tomorrow? They are harvested in autumn and have to be stored. The supermarkets either buy lots of them then, cheap, store them. They will have some spoilage. Or the grower can store them and sell to supermarkets when the supermarkets want them The price will be higher to the supermarket to account for the spoilage the grower will have. There will be spoilage - its how nature works. Its not about producing more than is needed. Its about having something to eat all year.	andrew93 (249)
1223036	2011-08-14 11:44:00	Well all I can say is you have a comprehension problem because you had a go at zqwerty and my post #40 gave a very good reason as to why it wasn't complete nonsense. Yet another straw man argument to suggest I think people should open shops in small towns to loose money. No you have an inability to follow logic, there is no straw man argument at all. I'll repeat three points to give you another chance to tell me what is wrong with it. 1. There clearly is competition between the supermarkets and the prices are pretty good as far as I can see compared to those I experienced on my recent holiday in Oz. 2. There are all sorts of markets and small shops around, so to suggest they have been put out of business is clearly incorrect. 3. You can go down the garden centre by your own seeds and do it yourself at quite a reasonable cost. Hard to beat the produce that comes out of your own garden. Sorry suggesting only one supermarket would be viable in a small town is not an argument against the above. It leaves you with options 2 and 3 even if there is no supermarket, and someone will only start a shop presumably where the demand is high enough to make money. If you're a Kedgely supporter and you seem to be, you support a level of government bureaucracy to tell shop owners what their prices should be. In short - you're a communist.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1223037	2011-08-14 11:48:00	"Yep it's called supply and demand - are they supposed to drop their prices and lose money? " You mean, lose what I was taught at University economics is known as 'super-profits', these rip-off artists are not getting say, cost plus 30% they are price gouging and the government should be regulating them, fat chance with this friends of the businessmans' National Party (capitalized only for clarity should be in sub-text). Let's regulate the prices comrade, and why not get rid of those business types while we're at it and if anyone disagrees with us they can have holidays in Siberia. :waughh:	Twelvevolts (5457)
1223038	2011-08-14 12:31:00	No you have an inability to follow logic, there is no straw man argument at all. Yes it is as there is no post where I suggested that a shop should open to loose money so that definitely makes it a straw man argument when you suggest it and bringing the Australian market into it is one also because the wages etc. are far higher. You say there is clearly competition between super markets but give no evidence of it and expect us to just take your word for it. While you say there are all sorts of markets and small shops around I have seen quite a few close. Going on about going down to the garden centre to buy seed etc. is also another straw man argument. Yet another one is you suggesting I am a supporter of Sue Kedgley and yet another one is saying that I think that there should govt bureaucracy telling shop owners what there prices should be. There is no post where I have said any of that. The last straw man argument is calling me a communist. You certainly like jumping to conclusion but sadly couldn't argue your way out of a wet paper bag.	mikebartnz (21)
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