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1249238 2011-12-19 18:48:00 I was always under the impression that the router had to be filtered as well.
Have plugged router into jack direct, and put phone base on another jack.

@ Chill: we have to get corded phone back again. Likely to happen after Xmas - or we will have to buy one. Again; this is likely after xmas

You have the phone base connected through a filter do you.
The router does not have to be filtered, the reason for using a filter with the router is just to allow a phone to be connected at the same jackpoint.
Safari (3993)
1249239 2011-12-19 20:40:00 You have the phone base connected through a filter do you.
The router does not have to be filtered, the reason for using a filter with the router is just to allow a phone to be connected at the same jackpoint.

yeah +1, filter just prevents the router from noising up the phone so it's for the phone's benefit not the routers. If you don't plug a phone in the same jack it's a good Idea not to use one. 1 less thing to fail.

You can actually use a phone without one as well, but you will hear the router and it's pretty noisy.
dugimodo (138)
1249240 2011-12-20 08:12:00 yeah +1, filter just prevents the router from noising up the phone so it's for the phone's benefit not the routers. If you don't plug a phone in the same jack it's a good Idea not to use one. 1 less thing to fail.

You can actually use a phone without one as well, but you will hear the router and it's pretty noisy.

The filter also prevents the phone interfering with the router. Most phones in NZ do not have a high terminating impedance in the ADSL frequency band (because the manufacturer didn't know/care about your use of it with ADSL) The filter (low-pass) prevents the level of the ADSL signal being pulled down by the phone or anything else intended for voice only.
decibel (11645)
1249241 2011-12-20 17:00:00 Ok, de-filtering the router and putting the filtered phone on another jack hasn't worked.

Will try dugimodo's polarity trick this week sometime and see if that helps

May be also retiring the modem/router soon. My switch has given up the ghost (well its in its last breaths stage) so I may drop the modem/router down a level and buy a new one; in case thats it.

Already checked the forums and see this comes recommended: NetComm NB6Plus4Wn ADSL2+ Modem/Router, Basic firewall, Ethernet, 4xRJ-45 ports, 802.11b/g/n Wireless. Any further comments on modem/router choice?
Myth (110)
1249242 2011-12-20 19:15:00 If you want something that is simple, solid, easy to setup, and all-in-one, then you can't beat it!

If you want to tinker, get a Linksys AM300 or Draytek DV120 for your modem and pump that into a WRT54GL running Tomato or Gargoyle.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1249243 2011-12-20 19:42:00 Myth, You never answered my question. Is this Orcon LLU or Telecom resale?? If LLU then good luck to you as I had the same issues with Orcon and gave up after about 9 months of pontless trying to fix it at my end and went back to a Telecom resold landline. It turns out that the ATAs that Orcon use at the local exchange are not ground referenced and will float causing the problems that you are having with cutoffs strange tones and the like during a conversation.. paulw (1826)
1249244 2011-12-20 23:02:00 Phone line polarity is only important if you have more than one of the old 3-wire master jacks.

Check the bottom right corner of the jack front-plate; it should have a "M", "S" or "2" embossed there (unless you have some Kamakusa brand units)
decibel (11645)
1249245 2011-12-21 02:21:00 Sorry Paul, I thought I had
I am sure it is Orcon equipment which iirc means it is Orcon LLU?

Someone may need to correct me on this

And the jack has a "2" on it which I am pretty sure means 2-wire. 3-wire had the "M" & "S" for Master/Slave correct?
Myth (110)
1249246 2011-12-21 02:38:00 And the jack has a "2" on it which I am pretty sure means 2-wire. 3-wire had the "M" & "S" for Master/Slave correct?

Yes, that's correct - but are all jacks like that ?
decibel (11645)
1249247 2011-12-21 04:35:00 Yes, that's correct - but are all jacks like that ?yes, all have a "2" on them Myth (110)
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