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Thread ID: 120156 2011-08-27 13:40:00 Is it illegal to record voice conversations in new zealand without consent? Question (15792) PC World Chat
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1226539 2011-08-28 05:06:00 I'm not really sure. Some background on this...

One of my flatmates had some complaints about noise levels(walls are really thin, we can hear very clearly when someone is talking next door). Instead of talking it over with the rest of the flat, she decided the best course of action would be to immediately file complaints with management. I missed the initial meeting with the manager and she basically sent me emails demanding i see her on monday or she will kick me off the premises. The girl who filed the complaint has also conveniently gone on a 3 week holiday.

I have no idea why management is getting involved because we can easily solve this among ourselves. Ive only met this manager once before and that involved her being rude, offensive and interrupting me multiple times mid sentence. I dont expect this meeting to be any different really.
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1226540 2011-08-28 05:48:00 Above all, keep your cool! Don't let yourself get into a slanging match. It's very hard for one person to have an argument if the other one is responding quietly, politely, even timidly - and speaking only the truth.
I'm inclined towards - don't record it - if the other person sees your mic or hears your recorder bleep then the resulting fireworks could ruin your case.
coldot (6847)
1226541 2011-08-28 05:53:00 I'm not really sure. Some background on this...

One of my flatmates had some complaints about noise levels(walls are really thin, we can hear very clearly when someone is talking next door). Instead of talking it over with the rest of the flat, she decided the best course of action would be to immediately file complaints with management. I missed the initial meeting with the manager and she basically sent me emails demanding i see her on monday or she will kick me off the premises. The girl who filed the complaint has also conveniently gone on a 3 week holiday.

I have no idea why management is getting involved because we can easily solve this among ourselves. Ive only met this manager once before and that involved her being rude, offensive and interrupting me multiple times mid sentence. I dont expect this meeting to be any different really.

The alternative could be to take someone with you.
plod (107)
1226542 2011-08-28 06:08:00 I dont think i can find anyone willing to go and hear something like this.

Good point about the sound...im planning to use my phone's voice recorder, and when you start it, theres a distinct beep. I cant find any option to turn it off, so i would probably need to turn it on before i walk through the door...
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1226543 2011-08-28 06:57:00 Doesnt seem to be an edit button, thats odd.

Just tested the voice recording after i put it in my jacket pocket. I can hear my voice, but its kind of muffled...may not be able to catch the conversation that well.
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1226544 2011-08-28 07:01:00 Doesnt seem to be an edit button, thats odd.

Just tested the voice recording after i put it in my jacket pocket. I can hear my voice, but its kind of muffled...may not be able to catch the conversation that well.
Hold it in your hand
prefect (6291)
1226545 2011-08-28 07:11:00 Well it would be kind of obvious if i held it in my hand wouldnt it.... Question (15792)
1226546 2011-08-28 07:22:00 Why? It's a cellphone, many people hold their cellphones in their hands. It's perfectly normal.

If you saw someone with a cellphone in their hand would you assume they were recording a conversation?
pine-o-cleen (2955)
1226547 2011-08-28 07:25:00 If there was no reason to hold the cellphone in their hand, yes.

I have never seen someone sit and talk while holding the cellphone in their hand. People just stuff it into their jeans pocket usually. Or put it on the table if they have no pockets or bag.
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1226548 2011-08-28 07:46:00 As title, if you record a voice conversation without consent from all parties, is it illegal?

It's legal as long as one party agrees. That is usually the person doing the recording hence the reason when your fone call to a CC does not have mandatory 30 beep tone across it as they do in Ozz.
paulw (1826)
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