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Thread ID: 120156	2011-08-27 13:40:00	Is it illegal to record voice conversations in new zealand without consent?	Question (15792)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1226519	2011-08-27 13:40:00	As title, if you record a voice conversation without consent from all parties, is it illegal?	Question (15792)
1226520	2011-08-27 15:08:00	Yes. But there may be exceptions such as wire tapping phones etc where you have permissions granted by a Court of law.	Snorkbox (15764)
1226521	2011-08-27 21:10:00	Yes as snork said. I had this conversation with our phone supplier about 6 months ago. There must be at least 1 person in the conversation who has knowledge of the recording.	Gobe1 (6290)
1226522	2011-08-27 21:15:00	See if this works for youse guys::: In the US - most phone services or call centers state: "This conversation may be recorded for quality control purposes". If they say that, then you have an automatic right to record on your end too.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1226523	2011-08-27 21:45:00	No, essentially it is not illegal. BUT - the parties must be made aware of the recording being made before recording commences. That's why so many customer service responses have a prerecorded warning before you are connected to the live person. You can hang up if you object, but I doubt that you could stay on the line and make them stop recording. It's all or nothing and likely not controlled by the operator. It would be illegal if the company hadn't warned the operator that they could be recorded on calls.	coldot (6847)
1226524	2011-08-27 21:47:00	No, essentially it is not illegal. BUT - the parties must be made aware of the recording being made before recording commences. That's why so many customer service responses have a prerecorded warning before you are connected to the live person. You can hang up if you object, but I doubt that you could stay on the line and make them stop recording. It's all or nothing and likely not controlled by the operator. "Consent" is the tricky bit. You consent by continuing the conversation. It would be illegal if the company hadn't warned the operator that they could be recorded on calls.	coldot (6847)
1226525	2011-08-27 21:48:00	As title, if you record a voice conversation without consent from all parties, is it illegal? To the best of my knowledge, you don't require consent - but you have to advise the other party that the recording is happening, or may happen. They then can simply hang up the phone if they don't want to be recorded.	Greg (193)
1226526	2011-08-27 22:15:00	I record the calls I make to companies chasing up late payment. I put the mobile on speaker phone and record with another old cell phone to a SD card. Many times I have played it back to them when they have changed their story. If it is illegal I dont care not paying accounts is illegal as well.	prefect (6291)
1226527	2011-08-27 22:46:00	Quite often when someone rings up to conduct a survey you will be told that the conversation is being recorded for training purposes. Pushy sales people are known to record their phone conversation with you. When you finally get persuaded to buy their product they can use it as a copy of a verbal contract with you. I would bet that they would not use the initial lead up to the conversation where they use their sales hype to get you to agree to buy their product.	Bobh (5192)
1226528	2011-08-27 22:54:00	but I doubt that you could stay on the line and make them stop recording. It's all or nothing and likely not controlled by the operator. There are a few places, after they have given the automatic message "the conversation may be recorded" that do say something along the lines of "if you do not wish to be recorded please advise the operator" I actually had one person as prefect pointed out, wouldn't pay an invoice, I warned him the conversation was being recorded since he always claimed he "never said that" -- Well --- he really let rip with the fowl language saying what he thought of the recording and what I could do with it :eek:, and called my bluff about taking to a debt collection company, and still refused to pay the invoice Stayed claim, and he really dug his own grave :lol: Loved to have seen the faces at Baycorp when they got that recording a few weeks later.	wainuitech (129)
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