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Thread ID: 122658 2012-01-05 06:37:00 windows 7 very slow start up over last few days globe (11482) Press F1
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1252314 2012-01-06 21:10:00 SO this is what I've got, compared to the other tests I still wouldn't expect it to take more than 50% again at the most...

Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 ATX DDR3 AM3+
AMD Phenom II X4 Processor Black Edition 955 3.2GHz
Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3 7200rpm HDD
Kingston Valueram 4gb 1333mhz Ddr3 Non-ecc Cl9 Dimm (kit Of 2)
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Prem 64bit


Running MSE again to see if that picks up anything that it may have missed first time around.
globe (11482)
1252315 2012-01-06 21:14:00 One way to tell for sure, as OS's can and do get damaged and no matter what type of repairs you try, they are never the same -- If you have another HDD, load in a fresh install of windows onto it, put in all the drivers for the hardware -- See if there is any difference.

Ideally you could clone your current OS to another drive first, make sure its cloned and working OK, then use the same current drive for the test that way all hardware is the same, just in case it is the drive.

Edited:
I had to reinstall this thing a few weeks back it got totally screwed, took over 5 minutes to start, half the programs locked up, or the network connections wouldn't work, no amount of fixes made it any better and while this does do nightly backups of the whole system it was slowly getting worse over the last 3-4 months, reinstalled it and what a difference :)
wainuitech (129)
1252316 2012-01-06 21:27:00 One way to tell for sure, as OS's can and do get damaged and no matter what type of repairs you try, they are never the same -- If you have another HDD, load in a fresh install of windows onto it, put in all the drivers for the hardware -- See if there is any difference.

Ideally you could clone your current OS to another drive first, make sure its cloned and working OK, then use the same current drive for the test that way all hardware is the same, just in case it is the drive.

I dont know much about cloning. I only have my external hard drive that I do back ups on rather than a spare one I could install in the machine. I have done a back up to that a couple of days ago. From this could I reinstall windows on the exisiting HDD and see how the performance goes then restore from my back up on the external HDD ?
globe (11482)
1252317 2012-01-06 21:45:00 Without knowing what type of backup you have I won t say go ahead, dont want to tell you wipe a drive, then it all turns to custard. If you have only backed up data, instead of a full system backup then you would have to reinstall again from fresh and start again.

Even if its a Windows 7 full system backup, has it ever been tested for actually working ? - I have had it sometimes that backups say they have worked when in fact they actually fail when attempting to put back. Thats why when cloning customers drives for a reinstall, I actually test the backup/clone on another drive to be certain its as per the original.
wainuitech (129)
1252318 2012-01-06 22:29:00 I had similar boot times a wee while ago,then I come across this www.gpforums.co.nz
So I gave it a go and it's pretty easy to use.Found that WD Software was taking a minute to load,I thought I'd disabled it with Ccleaner.In the end it knocked off 1.45 min.
Think it's still in the beta stage though but it's worth a try.
sk69ersnz (13476)
1252319 2012-01-08 08:21:00 so i've done a complete reinstall of windows. Just rebooted twice striaght after install and the boot up times are 3.42 and 3.45 ( i noted on the second time of booting it took 55secs to get past the gigabyte motherboard splash prior to the starting windows logo/page appearing).

So now that I have gone the whole hog and the issue is still there any other suggestions ? Could it be in the BIOS perhaps ? I did read somewhere where somebody had a slow PC and it was to do with their RAM needing to be wound back (or something) ? To my knowledge I haven't modified anything in bios or on the ram.

Thanks
globe (11482)
1252320 2012-01-08 08:55:00 Your motherboard, going by the spec's you listed, is running well within the RAM speed. You stated previously "Kingston Valueram 4gb 1333mhz Ddr3 Non-ecc Cl9 Dimm "

"3.Support for DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz memory modules"

Have you tried setting the BIOS back to default ?

One thing comes to mind -- when starting does the HDD activity light flash or is it on solid while its at the splash screen stage ?

Just got a funny feeling ( ewwwww :p ) something is having a problem detecting (could be completely wrong).
wainuitech (129)
1252321 2012-01-08 09:16:00 Have you tried setting the BIOS back to default ? No, I will try that


One thing comes to mind -- when starting does the HDD activity light flash or is it on solid while its at the splash screen stage ?

Just got a funny feeling ( ewwwww :p ) something is having a problem detecting (could be completely wrong).

I'll restart and have a look.

Am presently running at the basic windows 7 level no system restore or anything so I guess this is the cleanest I will get things and therefore the best time to try all this ?
globe (11482)
1252322 2012-01-08 09:22:00 Am presently running at the basic windows 7 level no system restore or anything so I guess this is the cleanest I will get things and therefore the best time to try all this ? yep, with nothing to slow it down ( like AV and other programs loading) it should be as quick as its gonna get.

Have you installed the motherboard Drivers ?

Just a thought - have a look in the event Viewer, see if theres any errors yet. Start, type in eventvwr select Event Viewer, Look at the windows logs / System and any others that take your fancy.
wainuitech (129)
1252323 2012-01-08 09:28:00 Have you installed the motherboard Drivers ? not yet.

Reset BIOS ? Can't find this either. IN the BIOS screen options (that I think may be the answer) are Q-flash, load fail safe defaults, and load optimized defaults. Any pointers ?

Cheers
globe (11482)
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