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Thread ID: 120244 2011-08-31 09:50:00 Copyright Letters Twelvevolts (5457) PC World Chat
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1227758 2011-08-31 23:23:00 Secondly, if you haven't been doing any torrenting then what the hell are you worrying about?

I've already said it, but I'm not going to change my "downloading" habits until I have two warnings from my isp. And even then, there are plenty of ways around it anyway.
That's great, but lets look at this example:
Small family, two parents and a few teenage kids. Account is in the fathers name
Kids have the same sort of cavalier attitude as you, don't wanna stop until the 2nd infringement
Kids have a mate over 2 months later who left uTorrent open on their laptop without realizing, jumps on their wifi for a few minutes to check email / facebook and incurs an infringement
Father gets a $15,000 fine.


I personally just don't think they're going to enforce it very well. IIRC it costs the ISP something like $20 or $30 to lodge a warning (correct me if I'm wrong here) and even though they can't at the moment (they're gonna review it in 6 months); what ISP would want to disconnect a customer from using their service for doing something that really does not effect them at all.

It's about the fines, not the disconnections, and about changing how piracy is perceived, as well as deterring the 'opportunist' downloader who does it simply because they think they can get away with it.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1227759 2011-08-31 23:27:00 Secondly, if you haven't been doing any torrenting then what the hell are you worrying about?

Did you read the link I posted?


I personally just don't think they're going to enforce it very well. IIRC it costs the ISP something like $20 or $30 to lodge a warning (correct me if I'm wrong here) and even though they can't at the moment (they're gonna review it in 6 months); what ISP would want to disconnect a customer from using their service for doing something that really does not effect them at all.

Why would they implement if it they weren't going to enforce it?

And more stupidity and potential accusation of innocent people, who use any P2P software with DHT even to share legal files: gracefool.posterous.com
Agent_24 (57)
1227760 2011-09-01 07:50:00 Any updates Twelvevolts? Jen (38)
1227761 2011-09-01 07:58:00 He's currently behind bars awaiting his legal representative to arrive and post bail ... :D SP8's (9836)
1227762 2011-09-01 08:35:00 That doesn't sound right, the copyright law specifically says that you're not allowed to have a lawyer. Agent_24 (57)
1227763 2011-09-01 08:46:00 Maybe he copied wrong? Different law. R2x1 (4628)
1227764 2011-09-01 08:48:00 I think you need one when you try to bludgeon ISP customer service representatives to death with a Copyright Infringement Notice ... :D SP8's (9836)
1227765 2011-09-01 09:21:00 That's great, but lets look at this example:
Small family, two parents and a few teenage kids. Account is in the fathers name
Kids have the same sort of cavalier attitude as you, don't wanna stop until the 2nd infringement
Kids have a mate over 2 months later who left uTorrent open on their laptop without realizing, jumps on their wifi for a few minutes to check email / facebook and incurs an infringement
Father gets a $15,000 fine.

That is where the law fails. Is this also the end to free wifi in public places?


It's about the fines, not the disconnections, and about changing how piracy is perceived, as well as deterring the 'opportunist' downloader who does it simply because they think they can get away with it.

The thing is, it's not going to stop the "real" or "serious" pirates. They will already have found ways of getting around it (which there are, and are very easy to do as well).

All I'm saying is I don't think they will enforce it very well. I'll be sure to let you guys know when I get my first warning though.

(not promoting piracy here, just pointing out how stupid the law is)
--Wolf-- (128)
1227766 2011-09-01 09:35:00 In my opinion the 'serious' pirates are the ones that sell hundreds if not thousands of copied DVDs etc. Agent_24 (57)
1227767 2011-09-01 11:24:00 i think what will happen is they will just phone you and ask to speak to you . . then they will flat out just tell you , we have reason to believe that you are downloading copywrite material .

im going to be so PISSED if they warn me if i DL free to air stuff . Like missed tv programs or Grand prix races , it sux . . . THIS LAW SUX . . . Even south Park did a episode on how stupid copywrite law is and how disgusting it is . But besides this, i DL 20GB's worth of games from STEAM , i pay for them . So i better not get 1 phone call, if i DL 20 GB's of stuff thats legal . The horrible thing about this law in NZ, is that NZ is so small that people will get busted easy just for DLing 1 song .

What if your at work and your kids start DLing stuff that your unawares of and then you come home and your net is disabled for 6 months . . . Awesome , what fun the future will be for all of us .

Definately voting in LABOUR this time around .
nyran125 (16520)
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