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| Thread ID: 120244 | 2011-08-31 09:50:00 | Copyright Letters | Twelvevolts (5457) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1227838 | 2011-09-05 05:05:00 | I personally think that the technology needed to secure, block and monitor internet traffic is beyond the capability of the majority of people who use the internet. Without sounding derogatory, many people just haven't got the education or skills to do it ... it has become a technical speciality requiring professional assistance which many simply cannot afford ... especially when you include some of the older generation. It's like a thread I started where Contact Energy were giving the older generation advice about paying their power bills online to get the 22% discount ... if the person didn't have a computer of their own, go do it at an internet cafe, neighbours, family or friend ... they (Contact) didn't explain some of the horrendous pitfalls sometimes asscoiated with using someone else's computer and quite frankly, most of their elderly customers wouldn't have a bloody clue about keylogging, spyware, malware etc. There are also going to be those people who get hacked and, even though the ISP can trace the usage to them, they wont have a clue that it's been done to them. I believe it's unrealistic to expect everyone to gain the knowledge required to effectively "control" their internet connection against sophisticated attacks by others. In all probability ... it's a conspiracy between politicians and IT / PC Techs to make sh!tloads of money ... :lol: |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1227839 | 2011-09-05 05:19:00 | In all probability ... it's a conspiracy between politicians and IT / PC Techs to make sh!tloads of money ... When that happens I'll let ya know ;) Edited: Man I hate some of these new smiles, that's meant to be a wink |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1227840 | 2011-09-05 05:40:00 | I know, right...how is that a wink. Looks like someone punched him in the goolies while he was eating soup. :lol: | wratterus (105) | ||
| 1227841 | 2011-09-05 06:32:00 | I personally think that the technology needed to secure, block and monitor internet traffic is beyond the capability of the majority of people who use the internet. Without sounding derogatory, many people just haven't got the education or skills to do it ... it has become a technical speciality requiring professional assistance which many simply cannot afford ... especially when you include some of the older generation. Looks like a market there... |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1227842 | 2011-09-05 07:24:00 | I personally think that the technology needed to secure, block and monitor internet traffic is beyond the capability of the majority of people who use the internet. Without sounding derogatory, many people just haven't got the education or skills to do it ... it has become a technical speciality requiring professional assistance which many simply cannot afford ... especially when you include some of the older generation. Anyone can unplug a cable, and if they pay the bill then they take the responsibility, They don't need an IT degree they just need to fulfill their position as head of the household. Be a man or get stood upon. Thats life. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1227843 | 2011-09-05 07:59:00 | The one that will have to worry is those who do a **** load of downloading of videos, songs and what ever via torrents etc. If you don't do any of that then what have you got to worry about? | QW. (15883) | ||
| 1227844 | 2011-09-05 08:14:00 | Looks like a market there... Yep .. and a growing one. Not to mention those with Alzheimers ... you can get repeat business and charge them over and over and over and over ... :lol: |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1227845 | 2011-09-05 08:43:00 | Well you could have told us that on Tuesday 12volts ... People here have been thinking all sorts of things. I was about ready to pass the hat around and take donations for the ransom ... :lol: Glad to see you back safe & well !! Yes I think I heard the celebrations of my impending hefty fine without even logging in - but never fear I will be getting radioactive material inserted through my perineum shortly if that counts for anything. I doubt the copyright people can do much worse to me. :groan: |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1227846 | 2011-09-05 08:57:00 | The one that will have to worry is those who do a **** load of downloading of videos, songs and what ever via torrents etc. If you don't do any of that then what have you got to worry about? If you use bittorrent for legal file distribution (which quite a few people do, as it's a very good platform for it - saves on server bandwidth because you download off the other users etc) you may get falsely accused of downloading copyrighted material. Why should legitimate users be forced to stop using a very good file transfer program because of rubbish like that? |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1227847 | 2011-09-05 09:27:00 | That's a good point, but how else are they going to do it? There could be a lot of "he did it", "No, she did it" sorta thing. Gargoyle / Tomato routers are easy to use and can block P2P / Torrents, but mass-educating people and getting those routers and further setting them up is another matter altogether! If you ask me, how else they could do it is not the question. If they find a fair way to prevent infringement without putting account holders at risk of unfair punishment for the actions of others, great. If they don't (and indeed where NAT is used I don't see how they could), that's no excuse to resort to this measure. Blocking torrents is not an acceptable solution because that prevents the use of torrents for perfectly legitimate purposes. Slightly further along the same line of logic, internet billpayers could simply refuse to allow others to share their account - entirely possible but not reasonable. Besides, as you say, the majority of the population do not know how to obtain an appropriate router and install a custom firmware on it, nor has the cost of doing so been considered in the bill. Metla, your argument about responsibility is somewhat valid - certainly parents are responsible for the actions of their children to some extent. But should a 21 year old student in a flat of 8 be financially liable for the actions of 7 of his/her peers? This is not a case of being the "head of the household". Often in these situations, who holds the account is an arbitrary decision as the cost is shared anyway. I don't think that person would have much luck recovering their fine from the offending flatmate even if they were able to track down the individual. QW, I think my argument answers your possibly rhetorical question. A person who holds an internet account which is shared with others has a lot to be legitimately worried about. |
george12 (7) | ||
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