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| Thread ID: 120244 | 2011-08-31 09:50:00 | Copyright Letters | Twelvevolts (5457) | PC World Chat |
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| 1227828 | 2011-09-03 23:10:00 | I made a bo-bo (Sp8's) :blush: I was thinking of your name, since it was your question/post then realised it was meant to be 12V :lol: Sorry for the insult :p Have a dozen :thumbs: |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1227829 | 2011-09-03 23:18:00 | Watch me laugh when they are 16 and banned from using my net connection. At a guess ... I'd say that by the time they turn 16, your kids and technology would have left you far behind ... they will be teaching you how not to get caught by your ISP. But take heart ... it's only another 11 years before you can start up your P2P software again ... :lol: |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1227830 | 2011-09-03 23:21:00 | I made a bo-bo (Sp8's) :blush: I was thinking of your name, since it was your question/post then realised it was meant to be 12V :lol: Sorry for the insult :p Have a dozen :thumbs: Fathers DAy Sunday afternoon ... do I have a choice ??? .. :lol: |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1227831 | 2011-09-04 00:01:00 | But if they connect to the tracker, arent they illegally downloading/uploading as well? Well it's the "Rights holder" who makes the complaint, so I think they can give themselves permission to download their own stuff. Besides connecting to a tracker doesn't mean you actually are downloading anything. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1227832 | 2011-09-04 04:44:00 | 2 sons 4 and 7. Watch me laugh when they are 16 and banned from using my net connection. The point is actions have consequences, adults understand this better then children so they are in a position to take the required actions to protect themselves. Learning this is part of the transition from child to adult, look at wolf, he isn't there yet, He's a kid using his parents internet and doesn't have the capacity to give a ****. Hey hey hey, don't be insulting all the teenagers here. We aren't one person... |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1227833 | 2011-09-04 07:32:00 | Metla should actually know better than to go picking on a minority group ... :rolleyes: | SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1227834 | 2011-09-04 21:52:00 | Watch me laugh when they are 16 and banned from using my net connection. The point is actions have consequences, adults understand this better then children so they are in a position to take the required actions to protect themselves. Learning this is part of the transition from child to adult, look at wolf, he isn't there yet, He's a kid using his parents internet and doesn't have the capacity to give a ****. Fully with ya on that one. Two brothers-in-law don't give a rats ass about consequences. One is pissing his life away in front of his PC going back to a dead-beat girlfriend, another has very little respect and does whatever the hell he wants to. Why? Because they have no boundaries enforced, at all. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1227835 | 2011-09-04 22:20:00 | Fully with ya on that one. Two brothers-in-law don't give a rats ass about consequences. One is pissing his life away in front of his PC going back to a dead-beat girlfriend, another has very little respect and does whatever the hell he wants to. Why? Because they have no boundaries enforced, at all. It is interesting to note that the diesase isn't catching, I am referring to your mem sahib. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1227836 | 2011-09-05 03:35:00 | So let me see if ive got this right... -Copyright holders can request ISPs investigate, but it costs them $200+ each time -If the ISP finds you guilty, they have to send two seperate infringement notices before you can possibly get fined -The tribunal operates on a "guilty till proven innocent" basis Im going to guess the inbuilt encryption options for programs like utorrent are useless? Thought I would clear this up. As much as I disagree with the law, it is not quite as bad as many people think. Firstly, the copyright holder notifies the ISP of the alleged infringement, and the ISP is required to pass this notice on to the customer. The ISP may charge around $25 per notice for this. The third notice (for a third offence) is an enforcement notice, which means it goes to the copyright tribunal. The basis of proof is that you are assumed guilty unless you claim otherwise, in which case it is decided on a balance of probabilities. Thus, you do not have to prove 'beyond reasonable doubt' that you did not do it, but they do not have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you did. It is whichever the tribunal decides seems to be the case, much like the disputes tribunal. If you had a reasonable defence I expect that you would get off the charge, but of course there is no guarantee of this. I would encourage anyone who wishes to understand how this law works to actually read it (it's not very long) rather than relying on the media or forums as there is a lot of misunderstanding around, and the particular legislation in this case is fairly easy to read anyway. Now that I understand this law better, my only problem with it (which is nonetheless a very serious concern and renders the law a horrendous mistake in my opinion) is that the account holder is completely responsible for all activity occurring on their account. In flatting situations especially I do not believe this is fair, particularly because it is not easy for a person with average skill to monitor the file sharing activity of their flatmates or to prevent it. |
george12 (7) | ||
| 1227837 | 2011-09-05 04:19:00 | That's a good point, but how else are they going to do it? There could be a lot of "he did it", "No, she did it" sorta thing. Gargoyle / Tomato routers are easy to use and can block P2P / Torrents, but mass-educating people and getting those routers and further setting them up is another matter altogether! |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
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