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| Thread ID: 120412 | 2011-09-07 20:58:00 | New Download Laws | Driftwood (5551) | PC World Chat |
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| 1229500 | 2011-09-07 20:58:00 | Is it legal to download & keep a music video from youtube? | Driftwood (5551) | ||
| 1229501 | 2011-09-07 21:12:00 | As far as I know it is. I would put youtube videos into the public domain catergory. The new download laws basicly only applie to people who are downloading commercial movies and music using P2P software. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 1229502 | 2011-09-07 21:24:00 | From: www.legislation.govt.nz “file sharing is where— “(a) material is uploaded via, or downloaded from, the Internet using an application or network that enables the simultaneous sharing of material between multiple users; and “(b) uploading and downloading may, but need not, occur at the same time In the context of downloading Youtube music videos: Subclause a): material is uploaded via, or downloaded from, the Internet - This part does apply. using an application or network that enables the simultaneous sharing of material between multiple users - The music video is being downloaded from a centralised location rather than from other peers, therefore this part does not apply. Subclause b) uploading and downloading may, but need not, occur at the same time - This part applies to your case. Feel free to correct me. Off to work now :) |
Renmoo (66) | ||
| 1229503 | 2011-09-07 21:39:00 | Is it legal to download & keep a music video from youtube? It's only legal if you have permission from the copyright holder, which you probably don't - this is one of the reasons YouTube doesn't offer a download option themselves. Note that the new amendment to the copyright act relates only to enforcement, it doesn't change the legality of any particular content acquisition method - so in the context of your question, the new part of the law is essentially meaningless. Trev: Most YouTube videos are *not* in the public domain. |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 1229504 | 2011-09-07 22:06:00 | Basically, you can stream it, but there's a pretty damn good chance you have not been granted a license to save it / archive it for later viewing. | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1229505 | 2011-09-07 22:40:00 | Yes. It is also illegal to see a blue car, or to wear green socks. Because that makes just about as much sense. | inphinity (7274) | ||
| 1229506 | 2011-09-07 23:17:00 | Basically, you can stream it, but there's a pretty damn good chance you have not been granted a license to save it / archive it for later viewing. That actually make every browser and every video on youtube illegal as well. Heres what I mean -- if you watch a movie thats streamed on youtube it will download to your PC regardless as a temp file ( most of the time) -- a person could then go in to the temp files, copy it out/ open with ( say VLC player) , and bingo the movie or music clip. Just watched a couple of music clips on youtube ( from the worst 90's thread) Now I didn't ask to download them or even try - but they did download to my PC automatically. Same goes for music thats streamed - theres many programs that can capturer or record whats coming out of a speakers / media players - now is the person actually downloading a streamed music track if its recording while its playing ??? Tricky question because the said person is not using any sort of downloading software or P2P software.----Interesting eh :D |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1229507 | 2011-09-07 23:27:00 | Yeah but you could just argue that's it 'buffering', for the purposes of 'time-shifting'. It's different from long-term archival / storage. See here: www.med.govt.nz |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1229508 | 2011-09-07 23:39:00 | It will not matter as the authorities do not have to prove how it got on your PC. | Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1229509 | 2011-09-07 23:44:00 | Thats true, but I cant see the "powers to be" going around everyones home or business premises making sure that any buffering / streamed content is removed from peoples computers -- it simply would be an impossible task. If someone watched a movie clip or music video on youtube they haven't actually downloaded it - its streamed, and that the way browsers / streaming works. So if its illegal, then every one had better un-install all browsers on all PC's. If someone were to record streamed music tracks, there is no way to tell if that streamed content is saved for long term usage or if its simply in peoples temp files. Basically they will be watching the P2P downloads and file sharing activities,other wise all places world wide that stream content could be doing something illegal. |
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