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| Thread ID: 120412 | 2011-09-07 20:58:00 | New Download Laws | Driftwood (5551) | PC World Chat |
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| 1229510 | 2011-09-08 02:01:00 | No, because in this instance it falls under the 'time shifting' category. Same as watching things through most modern PVRs, they automatically record the video regardless, specifically for the purpose of timeshifting (FFWD / RWD). There's no way to tell if the files have been saved / kept, from a 'server' point of view. Basically, it's illegal to do-so, so your concious is supposed to prevent you from doing it, much in the same way it's supposed to prevent you from taking something from your local dairy. Just because you *may* get away with it and the police will never notice doesn't make it any more or less illegal. However under the new law, all that's changed is the ability to easily prosecute people who utilize P2P / Torrents for illegal file-sharing. They've *always* monitored them, but because NZ is outside of the US jurisdiction (for the better part), they're hoping this law will make it easier for international copyright holders to be compensated. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1229511 | 2011-09-08 02:14:00 | Watching the news last night they spoke to Orcon who told them that network usage was down at least 10% and that they would be sending some letters out next week | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1229512 | 2011-09-08 02:49:00 | It will not matter as the authorities do not have to prove how it got on your PC. do they have to say what the accuse you of downloading or where from ?? |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1229513 | 2011-09-08 03:26:00 | There's no way to tell if the files have been saved / kept, from a 'server' point of view. Basically, it's illegal to do-so, so your concious is supposed to prevent you from doing it, And thats my point :D -- if someone were to save streamed content its only their actions that will dictate if its saved or deleted. Thats like recording programs from the TV - you are meant to delete them - many people dont as we all know. Sky do have a way of controlling that in some cases, esp if they are pay per view - after a set time (60 hrs) for example they auto delete once you have started watching them. Meaning if you record a PPV program/event, watch the first 5 minutes, then 60 hrs later - "poof" gone regardless if you have watched the rest or not. Other programs/ films etc are not auto deleted. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1229514 | 2011-09-08 03:34:00 | But how does using an anonimous proxy server work? Does it mean that if I download a movie, mp3, or whatever through a proxy server, does that mean the owner of the proxy server can be fined, even if that server is based overseas? Does using a proxy server mean the origin of the file is untraceable? | BigBadBob (14963) | ||
| 1229515 | 2011-09-08 03:47:00 | Same goes for music thats streamed - theres many programs that can capturer or record whats coming out of a speakers / media players - now is the person actually downloading a streamed music track if its recording while its playing ??? Tricky question because the said person is not using any sort of downloading software or P2P software.----Interesting eh :D A very good point. There are many sites that stream music and there is no reason why you can't record the music while it is being streamed. Most people have access to a programme that will record streamed music. Windows even comes with a very small and basic sound recording programme. I'm certain that you could use that. Simple. |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1229516 | 2011-09-08 04:15:00 | There are easier ways of hooking into the line-out and recording it, but again, it's still not specifically legal. Nothing changes with this law about what is or isn't legal, it's just easier for you to be prosecuted by an international figure and have them extract money from you now. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1229517 | 2011-09-08 04:19:00 | and have them extract money from you now Money -- Whats money ??:crying | wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1229518 | 2011-09-08 04:27:00 | Watching the news last night they spoke to Orcon who told them that network usage was down at least 10% and that they would be sending some letters out next week It's also worth noting that's 10% of "International P2P traffic", not overall network utilization. That means that 90% of all international P2P traffic is still continuing! |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1229519 | 2011-09-08 13:33:00 | Wow how confusing for everyone. NZ seems to have some of the most strictest rules regarding copyright in the world. | wmoore (6009) | ||
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