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Thread ID: 120590	2011-09-15 21:31:00	Do You Flash Your Headlights.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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1231484	2011-09-17 05:52:00	I don't buy any other claims of "revenue gathering". The law is the law. If you wilfully speed, it's ridiculous to complain at being fined for it. If you accidentally speed, it's ridiculous to complain at being punished for your mistake. The majority of drivers know how to regulate their speed. If you demonstrate total inability to do so, you'll fail the license test. The point that I have been trying to make is not that people should have the right to break the law but that the police want people to speed so they can fine them, and are willing to ticket people for taking action that actively slows down traffic. The problems from the police point of view is that this stops them collecting money and getting a big list of people that received tickets. Is it about slowing down traffic/safety or money? The powers that be aren't in the least bit interested in immediate real world results, they want a headline that says they handed out 200000 tickets, and they want the budget to carry on, next year,more cameras 300000 tickets. Pay rises all around chaps, its a pot of gold.	Metla (12)
1231485	2011-09-17 09:43:00	I got flashed last night driving along bealey ave near the manchester street intersection. [snip] I think she was trying to attact some attention. Sad part was that she was freakin ugly. :yuck: Dude, Manchester st, what do you expect? :lol:	ubergeek85 (131)
1231486	2011-09-17 09:59:00	If the police "want people to speed so they can fine them", NZTA/NZ Police wouldn't put out expensive advertising campaigns to try and discourage speeding. The police would not limit their lower 5km/h tolerance to school zones during school hours. The powers that be want a headline saying road toll reduced to x. There's a clear logic, which I agree with, in not giving drivers any warning - if people are warned by speed camera signs, and fellow motorists flashing headlights, then they have no reason not to speed in the many areas where they won't get caught - many of which are very dangerous still. If people have no idea when they might be caught, there's more reason to be cautious at all times. To claim that the police would like pay rises at the expense of increased road deaths is quite an accusation and not particularly well-founded.	george12 (7)
1231487	2011-09-17 10:30:00	If the police "want people to speed so they can fine them", NZTA/NZ Police wouldn't put out expensive advertising campaigns to try and discourage speeding. The police would not limit their lower 5km/h tolerance to school zones during school hours. The powers that be want a headline saying road toll reduced to x. There's a clear logic, which I agree with, in not giving drivers any warning - if people are warned by speed camera signs, and fellow motorists flashing headlights, then they have no reason not to speed in the many areas where they won't get caught - many of which are very dangerous still. If people have no idea when they might be caught, there's more reason to be cautious at all times. To claim that the police would like pay rises at the expense of increased road deaths is quite an accusation and not particularly well-founded.There were originally for speed cameras, then it got changed too anywhere anytime which I agree with. I haven't had a speeding ticket in about 6 years, purely because I don't want the fine. And yes if you can't control your speed going down Ngaranga gorge, be it manual or auto, you shouldn't have a license	plod (107)
1231488	2011-09-17 21:34:00	To claim that the police would like pay rises at the expense of increased road deaths is quite an accusation and not particularly well-founded. Yeah, Thats a bit of a twist, But there is always a bigger picture and movers and shakers with agendas. If they wanted to reduce speeding and lower the road toll then there are far better and more effective ways of doing it, and if it were there one and only driving force then they would stake their careers on it.	Metla (12)
1231489	2011-09-17 22:03:00	There were originally for speed cameras, then it got changed too anywhere anytime which I agree with. I haven't had a speeding ticket in about 6 years, purely because I don't want the fine. And yes if you can't control your speed going down Ngaranga gorge, be it manual or auto, you shouldn't have a license Even a 8 year old could work the speedometer and brake pedal together	prefect (6291)
1231490	2011-09-17 23:09:00	Put speed limiters on all cars so that they can't go over 100k then all the police have to do is monitor the urban areas	gary67 (56)
1231491	2011-09-17 23:15:00	They should indeed but that won't stop bad driving, People will still have head on crashes and drive through stops signs, drive at a speed that doesn't suit the conditions. A robust training and monitoring system along with real world repercussions (instant life bans and jail) along with building better roads and speed limiting devices. People die on the roads because its allowed to happen, The public accept it and so do the police and the government, The current system just nudges the issue around the edges without tackling it head on, I have never seen any evidence that speed cameras save lives but they look good on the spread sheet.	Metla (12)
1231492	2011-09-18 05:47:00	"I have never seen any evidence that speed cameras save lives but they look good on the spread sheet." Correct, it allows them to issue tickets without a human sitting there doing nothing. You would more likely have lives saved due to flashed headlights	Gobe1 (6290)
1231493	2011-09-18 08:06:00	Yeah, those kids that smashed a stolen car, with the driver killing himself - speed camera would only be a toy to them - see how fast they can go past it. Stolen car Running from cops Endangered themselves and others Sorry, won't sympathise. Can only hope other stupid teens may learn from their mistakes.	Paul.Cov (425)
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